Upgrade time!

Chaosphere · September 05, 2019, 04:29:12 PM

Quote from: Galatoni;439044I've never been much for overclocking, it's quite risky and you're likely to reduce the life of what would otherwise be an excellent system.

Sorry Gal but I completely disagree with this bit (

) - Overclocking needn't be risky and does nothing to reduce expected practical longevity if done with appropriate prior research and a modicum of sense. It has become a very consumer-friendly process, with very little downside if approached correctly. That said, there really is very little benefit to Overclocking these days - which I am sure we can agree on.

What I mean by that is, most components are running close enough to their peak performance out of the box that Overclocking really gets you very little gain for the time and effort invested. Thus, for most people, there is no need, and no real reason to buy unlocked CPUs unless you want to Overclock for enjoyment purposes.

DiseasedBunny · September 05, 2019, 09:28:11 PM

whatever i get will be a huge improvement on my current setup (i5 4440, 8gb ddr3), just if im looking at a big upgrade I don't want to be doing it again in a couple of years, hence also getting a rtx2060 or similar on black Friday....

Chaosphere · September 05, 2019, 09:37:43 PM

A potato generating a few millivolts is an improvement over a 4400*. Enjoy the upgrade.

*Joking, nothing wrong with this CPU - my better half is still on my old 4770.

DiseasedBunny · September 05, 2019, 09:53:21 PM

Quote from: Chaosphere;439050A potato generating a few millivolts is an improvement over a 4400*. Enjoy the upgrade.
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Thing is I agree with you!

Mikep1212 · September 06, 2019, 12:38:32 AM

As someone suggested re getting a system from Scan. Last year they did do some cracking black friday system deals. If you can wait a few weeks.

Mikep1212 · September 06, 2019, 01:02:29 AM

Also the earlier metioned chip "3700X" doesn't have a non X version so it's the only one to go for.

Just know that Ryzen 3000 chips have been very well reported recently to not hit the advertised boost clocks.

If your gaming, go intel. If your multi thread work loading get a ryzen.

RizZy · September 06, 2019, 06:11:58 AM

Quote from: Mikep1212;439056Also the earlier metioned chip "3700X" doesn't have a non X version so it's the only one to go for.

Just know that Ryzen 3000 chips have been very well reported recently to not hit the advertised boost clocks.

If your gaming, go intel. If your multi thread work loading get a ryzen.

hopefully the issue with the boost clocks on AMD has a fix incoming - https://twitter.com/AMDRyzen/status/1168901636162539536

DiseasedBunny · September 08, 2019, 02:27:29 PM

PSUs...if I get a gold rated one, would 600w be enough for a single gpu, say a rx5700 or other amd as they are more power hungry and a standard motherboard/CPU with no overclock? Or can I even go to 550? I currently have a 500w bronze aerofoil integrator which works fine for the past 3 years, but the Mrs said if I'm changing so much I may as well start from scratch - so that's everything bar SSD drives monitor and HDD drives

Chaosphere · September 08, 2019, 02:38:54 PM

The efficiency rating doesn't matter so much. A Bronze 600W PSU and a Gold 600W PSU both deliver 600W to your pc, but the bronze draws more power from the wall to do so. The gold therefore produces less heat and costs less to run.. but the differences may actually be slight, especially when both are being run at loads close to say 400-500W.

That said, I would recommend at least a 600-650W PSU for most gaming builds. What does matter, is avoiding running the PSU near its max for long periods. Although a 500W may be technically fine, with little headroom it will be running a higher load proportionally for much of its lifespan - which may be shortened as a result.

DiseasedBunny · September 08, 2019, 03:21:38 PM

Cheers, just playing the waiting game for any offers on decent brand ones... following mike's tip about black Friday for the main kit, but the more bits I can get before hand, the less hit the credit card will take.

I'll play with pc partpicker over the next week, and you can tell me how rubbish it is ,lol (looking at 1k maximum though for budget)

Mikep1212 · September 08, 2019, 04:26:41 PM

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1045610-new-psu-tier-list/

DiseasedBunny · September 14, 2019, 08:57:17 AM

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Pdbq6s

This look ok? Or are there any obvious improvements? (Using my existing SSD drives, k/b, etc...)

As per mike's advice, I'll not be ordering until black Friday for hopefully some deals, but I will get bits like case, PSU when they are on offer...

Mikep1212 · September 14, 2019, 09:58:48 AM

In the sale, I'd try to get faster ram to pair with your Ryzen chip.

RizZy · September 14, 2019, 10:50:15 AM

Go for the Tomahawk Max instead of the standard one - it's got a bit better support for the Ryzen 3000 stuff, + as Mike says, faster Ram if you can afford a bit more.

Sneakytiger · September 14, 2019, 12:56:17 PM

ryzen ok for gaming now?