Win 2003 Server, Exchange 2003 Server Upgrade

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TeaLeaf

#15
May 16, 2004, 03:08:54 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Gandalf-LordOfJelly@May 16 2004, 02:31 PM
However, I'd seriously look at getting hfnetchk pro, which is free for upto 10 machines. www.shavlik.com
I tried to download that 4 times.  Each time it told me the file was corrupted.  I emailed the support people and never even had a reply :rolleyes:  I like the sound of what it does, but if it doesn't work......

And thanx for the support offer G, I'll have your phone number with me :)

TL.
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Gandalf

#16
May 16, 2004, 03:38:16 PM
ok, so you've got the serial number? I'll get the latest version from work and stick it on my webserver for you to download tomorrow.
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TeaLeaf

#17
May 16, 2004, 03:51:38 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Gandalf-LordOfJelly@May 16 2004, 03:38 PM
ok, so you've got the serial number? I'll get the latest version from work and stick it on my webserver for you to download tomorrow.
Cheers.

TL.
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Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)

Gandalf

#18
May 17, 2004, 09:54:07 AM
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Cake: Four large eggs. One cup semi-sweet chocolate chips. Three/four cups butter or margarine. One and two third cups granulated sugar. Two cups all purpose flour. Fish shaped ethyl benzene. Twelve medium geosynthetic membranes. Three tablespoons rhubarb, on fire.

TeaLeaf

#19
May 17, 2004, 05:25:12 PM
Cheers G.  I checked the file I had already and it installed fine on my XP Pro PC - so the downloaded file is fine.  It doesn't like my Win2K Server though :(  I'm currently checking to see of all the pre-requisite software is installed, I am sure it is though......

TL.
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Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)

Rabbi Bob

#20
May 19, 2004, 10:07:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Gandalf-LordOfJelly@May 16 2004, 01:31 PM
However, I'd seriously look at getting hfnetchk pro, which is free for upto 10 machines. www.shavlik.com

I use it at work, and patching our 35 machines becomes a doddle :)
 
That is a beautiful thing.

I've tested and will be implementing a SUS server soon here.

http://www.susserver.com/

Basically, it creates a local Windows Update server on your network.  It checks for critical updates at designated times and downloads the patches.  Then the clients all point to it and make their update calls on the LAN (much faster).

In testing, it was pretty effective and as long as the clients were configured to contact the server at boot up and check for updates, it was fast and effective.
#!/usr/bin/admin
use warnings;
use strict;
use boot;

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TeaLeaf

#21
May 20, 2004, 08:01:26 AM
I downloaded all the patches I thought I needed for Shavlik and made sure they were installed, still no joy.  I hope the upgrade to 2003 will ensure it works!  The susserver is an alternative for Shavlik?  or does it run alongside with shavlik pointing at the susserver?  I can certainly arrange for an extra machine to be on the network to run the susserver for me if it is needed.

My machines stay on 24/7 - they have to Fold you know! - I assume you can schedule the updates to download across the network.

Purchasing the adsl router today.  Current consideration are the Draytek 2600VGi and the Cisco 836/7 type.  Anyone got any quick comments before I press the 'purchase' button some time mid-afternoon today?

TL.
TL.
Wisdom doesn\'t necessarily come with age. Sometimes age just shows up all by itself.  (Tom Wilson)
Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)

Gandalf

#22
May 20, 2004, 08:21:47 AM
Well, I've just got a Cisco adsl router and it's great.

But it is pricey. Personally I'd steer clear of Draytec stuff as I've had their equipment in the past and it's been shite. Oh, and that rules out d-link too, as I think their routers use the same firmware.
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Rabbi Bob

#23
May 20, 2004, 10:43:54 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by TeaLeaf@May 20 2004, 07:01 AM
I downloaded all the patches I thought I needed for Shavlik and made sure they were installed, still no joy.  I hope the upgrade to 2003 will ensure it works!  The susserver is an alternative for Shavlik?  or does it run alongside with shavlik pointing at the susserver?  I can certainly arrange for an extra machine to be on the network to run the susserver for me if it is needed.
 
Shavlik is new for me and I am exploring it now.  So far I see a great tool for a domain wide update push, especially for making sure computers are patched.

SUS simply maintains a local copy of the Windows Critical Update server, self updating by preset intervals.  You would need to set your clients up to point at the SUS server (a rather lengthy install guide is linked on the site) and to do something akin to: Download all updates and install/Do Not Reboot/Request Reboot from user.  On a case by case basis, you can alter it to have the machines self reboot on completion (I noticed that Shevlik appears to trip the reboot by default), there are a few different options.

I like it because it means if you have 10 PC's and a 200MB Service Pack comes out, you aren't downloading 2GB to cover your machines.  The SUS server grabs the one download and the other machines get it from that one.

Shavlik appears to be an active tool and SUS is fundamentally a passive one.

We're going to install SUS permanently after we redo the domain controller and exchange.
#!/usr/bin/admin
use warnings;
use strict;
use boot;

Bob is: working on A.T.L.A.S. HL

Rabbi Bob

#24
May 28, 2004, 02:51:51 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by TeaLeaf@May 14 2004, 06:10 AM
Over the Friday 28th and weekend of 29th, 30th and 31st May I have the pleasure of moving
Good luck TL.

We made the decision this week to start a second domain and raise it from the ground up properly.  I'm adding SP3 to Exchange right now (love VPN sometimes) from the comfort of my comfy chair :)
#!/usr/bin/admin
use warnings;
use strict;
use boot;

Bob is: working on A.T.L.A.S. HL

TeaLeaf

#25
May 29, 2004, 03:02:46 PM
Mid way through the upgrade and the server says 'you need this patch'.  We have no internet connection and have to drive to an internet cafe to download the file.  Either that or it's a 5 and a half hour download on my home ISDN  :blink: or a drive to Watford to find a relative with broadband  :o

Grrrr, I hate Microsloath.

TL & GFK.
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Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)

Gh0st Face Killah

#26
May 30, 2004, 03:39:14 AM
Well we got there in the end. Win2k3 wouldn't recognise the onboard NIC so we had to drive to TL's place and dnld the drivers for that. Once that was done everything went ok. we had connectivity and all the pcs can talk to the server and vica versa. So a result I think.
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TeaLeaf

#27
May 30, 2004, 08:11:02 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Gh0st Face Killah@May 30 2004, 03:39 AM
Once that was done everything went ok. we had connectivity and all the pcs can talk to the server and vica versa. So a result I think.
This is a a new use of "everything went ok" of which I was previously unaware ;)

Seriously, I owe you a huge debt of gratitude GFK - I would not have got through it without your hlep, cheers Jon :thumbsup:  It's a testament to the friendships you build within this community that someone was willing to drive from Bristol to Milton Keynes and blow a whole day helping another member with their IT problems!

Why an onboard NIC that works fine before the upgrade should not be recognized post upgrade is totally beyond me.  It's a major brand NIC (broadcom) on a major brand mobo (Asus) and W2k3 Server failed to see it after the upgrade despite giving us a clean bill of health re compatible hardware in the pre-install hardware check.

For those interested, the Microsloath installation notes state that the upgrade from W2k SBS to W2k3 SBS should take two and a half hours.  I arrived at 9.30am Saturday morning, Jon arrived shortly afterwards.  We both left at 11.49pm Saturday evening with still a few security patches to load (I'll do that this morning).

Next week's episode will have detailed information on how to inflict major pain on anyone to do with Microsoft, and we have a special feature involving Bill Gates, razors and tabasco sauce.  Until next time, this is TL (& GFK) signing out.......

T"Thanks GFK"L.
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Wisdom doesn\'t necessarily come with age. Sometimes age just shows up all by itself.  (Tom Wilson)
Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)

Anonymous

#28
May 30, 2004, 08:38:08 AM
Played GFK!

Glad you're sorted TL

PS I wouldn't drive to Milton Keynes for anything!  ;)

Rabbi Bob

#29
May 30, 2004, 11:52:31 AM
Congrats, glad to hear it is a done deal.  

When my wife asks how long I'll be away installing something, I usually just give her 'all day..and maybe tomorrow', where MS is concerned, you never can tell.

Amazing on the Win2K3 not having the drivers, I had the same thoughts you posted concerning the specs being fairly norm in the industry.

Also, cheers to GFK, having someone willing to do that is priceless.  I've done it and have had it reciprocated, the feeling is great either way.
#!/usr/bin/admin
use warnings;
use strict;
use boot;

Bob is: working on A.T.L.A.S. HL
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