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Its not released in Europe until tomorrow (27th) at Midnight. So there is not much point in trying.

It was released in the USA a couple of days ago.

Read the label men. Tomorrow is release date. Sneaky advance entry in another thread. For goodness sake ...

Two dMw servers

Yes it works. Nice to see the dMw server up. Come on Ninj lock and load

Yes I am

Leave me alone!

For me as i get killed by [strike]the NS2000[/strike] a sniper, i pick up [strike]next round[/strike] the [strike]snipergun[/strike] NS2000 and [strike]try to[/strike] take the person out.

Snipers should be stabbed or NS2000ed the only other course of action is to ban them.

Man you are such a stats whore

BIG-Paddy

Late entrant to the conversation. I havent been following things as I thought BC2 was effectively dead in dMw.

Just a few comments.

Comms are not the problem. Benny mentioned we can change TS channels. Pubs don't always talk or even listen to ingame comms anyway. BC2 is by design a tactical TEAM game as Tut states. If anyone would like a demonstration of BC2 being played tactically then PM me or any of the BIG guys and we will show you how it feels, we have now reached the point where if we don't get best squad we sulk. This is not CSS or COD it is another game and needs a different team approach. Sure go frag if you like, but you wont beat team BIG that way and competitively we would encourage you to do that as much as you like.

There have been a number of mistruths stated.

None of us were insulted by Ninja (I cant imagine any of us ever being offended by Ninja) and that has not led to us playing elsewhere. We played elsewhere 1. because the DMW server is usually empty and 2. because we like to play together and don't think that is the way to recruit. I guess we would always instigate away days in any case. We didn't come back (gosh that reads bad!)

Admin channel access. Ghosty pm'ed password. I pm'ed success as requested. Magnus can't see it because he isn't an admin.

I take no offense.

Would it be possible to have an official Cider tasting afternoon? The bar has a good range of ciders too and any contributions really would be appreciated.

Is this whiskey thing class raising its ugly head? Dewey would never live down a whiskey tasting whereas a ciderthon would give him some real cred down the estate.

All sounds good. I would suggest that we make it very simple one liners to publish.

I would just like to confirm can attackers do what they like on Rush?

Paddy and Magnus booked twin(s)

I think I feel the same. The problem as I see it is if you leave a bit. Just away from the spawn. It feels simpler to say don't take vehicles even though it is quite a yomp sometimes to the next base.

I was thinking not to take newly spawned vehicles, but I don't think that is any simpler really.

Anyone else have a view on TWOCing?

And is it free for all for attackers. They can steal vehicles, but defenders cannot? They can camp?

I'm happy with it.

Not sure what you mean about the list for BC2 players.

So I think I have some simple (I need simple) ideas we seem to be agreeing or at least moving towards. For defenders in rush mode at least.

1. When a base falls, you can fight your way out. This doesn't mean hanging around, get to your own base and defend.
2. Never return to a lost base for any reason.

I'm not sure about this,
3. when falling back don't take vehicles?

The map specific thing may be important for the start of the game, or out of bounds may cover this, and for defining what is an advanced defence and what is baseraping. In practice the latter will be managed by admins, but we should share some understanding of where the line exists. Again if this is an easy landmark to shout about then all the better.

For attackers in rush mode. I guess go anywhere is OK? And they can steal defenders vehicles?