Amber-Shaper Un'sok - DEFEATED 08/01/13

[Slush]

Oh yeh... and 2heal plz
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-arqtswxhz7sv5q2v/sum/healingDone/

Some smart guy on one of the forums I visited posted; here are 3 things that can cause a raid wipe:
1. Standing in pools (Fixed! noone is stadning at them)
2. Incorrect healing of parasite. (Fixed! personal CD's helps ALOT)
3. Amber Explosion! (Cant be fixed even with 3 healers).

One extra dps will lower the time we spend on the big add and therefore reduce the number of amber explotions in total throughout a fight.
Yes, we can will struggle if one of the healers gets a big yellow suit on, but it is according to forum sources still managable.

[JonnyAppleSeed]

We did have a go at 2 healz and agree it can be done  .... tho im happy to stick with 3 until we get the interrupts sorted. we have the dps

[TeaLeaf]

Even with 3 healers we're well ahead on DPS, so I don't see the benefit of moving to 2 healers.  As Jas says, it's the interupts we're not handling at the moment.   Sort the interrupts and the autoattack on the boss and Amber-Shaper's going be die.

[Slush]

Even with 3 healers we're well ahead on DPS, so I don't see the benefit of moving to 2 healers.

More dps'ers = shorter encounter = fewer Amber Explosions = bigger chance of not missing interrupts of Amber Explosions
I see guilds using both 2 and 3, so no big issue, really. Just a thought.

[Whitey]

Bonus tip; Paladins can use Hand of Purity on any party members that has less than 6 secs left of parasitic growth.

That's only if your a Holy Paladin

[Slush]

That's only if your a Holy Paladin

Nope, its actually a quite good talent for protection paladins. Situational ofcourse, like the other tier 4 talents.. but clearly (imo) a talent to choose on this fight, feng and stone guardians (all fights with DoTs). I agree that it might not be worth swapping talents for each fight on normal, but might be handy on heroic..
If you on HC Feng get 3 stacks, this would be pretty awesome as lifesaver/damage mitigation tool against his DoTs... for a few seconds.

As far as I can see, the Clemency talent was not used by neither you or Hal on sundays raid:
World of Logs link

I also read up a bit on this, seems like there is a buff to Hand of Purity incoming.
"5.2 patch notes state: Hand of Purity now reduces all incoming damage by 10% in addition to its other effects."

[Ammon]

Double Interrupt.
Sometimes both the boss & construct Amber Explosions go out at the same time.
As I learned the hard way, and was tested by Whytee i believe, Pressing 1 will NOT work while the construct explosion is going out.

Pressing 2 first then spamming 1 to ensure both construct & boss explosions are stopped has been agreed to be the way to roll with it.

[Milli]

On Jas's Request I have learnt Weak Auras inside and out - back to front etc etc... and came across this on the net

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It "looks" like it'll show whats needed but will need to test it.


It actually (on further inspection) is looking really like what most are after

You can also add a "button glow" for which button to press

Open Weak Auras

->Left hand Frame Click The Added Aura for Ambershaper
-> Click

•  to open up the sister panels

-> 1st panel is "Amber Explosion on Target"
-> Click this - Then on Right Hand Frame Click "Actions"
-> On this panel Now Tick [Button Glow], and to right of it select in drop down box "Show"
-> Below That Click Choose then select what button corresponds to "vehicle bar button 1"

Now do exact same for 2nd panel on left hand side (Amber Explosion Self)

But again replacing button to what corresponds to "Vehicle bar Button 2"

[Ammon]

wow heh, that looks more like my wireless access point password than code for a ui element
I should take a look at weak aura's though.

[ayla]

I have now installed this (weak aura's), with the help of Milly.  I really like the look of this, and hopefully it will mean no more screw ups on my behalf (the warnings are massive on my screen ).  I am aware that this fight and me arent the best of friends and it was my fault more than likely for us going boom a lot - so fingers crossed (i shall test this on an LFR first) my issues with this fight are now solved

[TeaLeaf]

Weak auras is the default addon of this type for RGT, I'd recomment installing it as we fairly regularly come across a code to help with a specific encounter.  I particularly like the 20% STOP sign, it might help us not lose people.  As with all WA codes, once you click on the sub-components of the code, it allows you to drag and move each bar to suit.   Make sure you spend time thinking about where will best suit the message or bar that you want to see.

....and I apologise for sounding a bit shirty last night at times, I should not have let my frustration with this encounter get the better of me.   It's tough for us all and I should have carried it better than I did.

[Guru]

Here is my observation for last night raid:

1 - Don't PANIC.

2 - If you're using DBM just disable every bar except the 2 explosions.

3 - After wiping many times, it proves that having one ranged (thanks to TL) dealing with Ambers is the best method to quickly get the mutated player around 25% health.

4 - Phase 2: it is very important to range players (healers or dps) to hug the big mutated dude in order for melee to dps the the player, I've seen yesterday few tries that we as melee struggled to dps the mutated player. So I'd suggest if we can put a fix position to dps and interrupt the big dude.. Like hugging the left leg from the back rather we as melee run as headless chicken.

5 - Worst case Scenario: This case happened to me yesterday and it sums it all for everyone. I had the re-shape life debuff and amber was targeting me AT THE SAME TIME. So I decided to move away from boss area and kill the amber quickly (auto attack + hitting #1) Amber died. Then Whytee was yelling "explosions in 10" while dbm started counting 5 4 3 .. I was far away once dbm count down reached 1.. I was in the a bit far away from the big dude so I interrupted myself (# 2) then rushed to the big dude and target him.. I saw the cast bar on the big dude and then finally I reached him and interrupt him (# 1) and auto attcked him. when I reached almost 23% HP there was another self explosions from me.. so I've waited a bit then when the dbm reached 1 on countdown and I saw the cast bar on me.. I just pressed (#4) and by that I left safely and interrupted my add explosion at the same time.

6 - Phase 2 : Once the big dude reached around 15% we will stop nuking the reshaped life player and we keep dpsing the big dude and build stacks by mutated player.

[Sharpfang]

bump for RGW

[TeaLeaf]

I'd add that shadow priests need to stop using AOE dps/heals abilities like Halo as whilst it does dps, it also heals the player with the debuff which then makes the healers job a nightmare.