Excessive Wall Spamming

[Xedos]

Hiya guys, I was on the server in question last night and pretty much agree with all the above. In a sense, I would put things more simply...CS is a game involving team/solo skill to get the most enjoyment. I don't get any pleasure from "accidentally" killing an enemy whilst shooting at someone else and have been known to apologise for it. After all, that is no demonstration of gaming ability, just a bit of luck. With that in mind, killing through a wall or door because you have had an indication that an enemy is there seems OK, but to reinforce the above, madly spamming in the hope if getting a kill is just random frag hunting, which is not TCS. For what its worth, the player concerned has lessened my enjoyment of the game the past couple of nights, and I know I'm not alone in saying that. He may be using genuine skill, but when his team has a 1 to 3 dissadvantage and still wins, that is not fun gaming, which is why we are all here.
As the new boy here, I hope I haven't offended anybody and TCS is the best thing I've seen in CS for 3 years, but I just thought I'd have my say.
                          Pete

[Anonymous]

I doubt you've offended anybody m8. My view is that as long as people are polite and making a point then they should say what they believe. If I have the opposite view then so be it but everyone is entiltled to their view.

PS I don't disagree with your post

[Swoop]

I actually remembering asking the person in question (cant remember who anymore though... damn beer loose brain cells) to stop spamming, mostly because i couldnt hear anything but his AK

Think my exact words where something like "dude stop wasting your ammo".

Wheni play TCS, i love that i can for once walk, and get this really sneaky game going on, where tension builds up as nobody is making any noise.  

[Sn00ks]

And then you go and ruin it by shooting me in the back  :blink:  :huh:  

[DuVeL]

Bumped, don't spam the doors in aztec, that counts both ways, CT and T. This evening it was really bad.

[JonnyAppleSeed]

wot he said

[DarkAngel]

On one ocassion i saw u through the doors and so shot at you know were you would run so shot that way through the doors... it aint wall spamming if you know they are 100% there.

[TeaLeaf]

A few shots anyone will get away with.  It's the excessive bit that we're talking about.

TL.

[smite]

It was also happening a lot a lot on Rio last night....

[DuVeL]

Originally posted by DarkAngel@Jan 10 2004, 02:33 AM
On one ocassion i saw u through the doors and so shot at you know were you would run so shot that way through the doors... it aint wall spamming if you know they are 100% there.

That I know but I even saw one shooting with a shotgun shooting the doors repetingly. Also when from T or CT side you couldn't see anyone they kept shooting. As CT I checked the bridge because fellow CT's were shooting but I stood there for a while, I didn't see any1 but they kept shooting  

[Signal]

So basically it seems to boil down to someone laying covering fire on a position i.e. house window in Italy, to allow teammates to get into position is fine. Spotting or indeed hearing an enemy on the other side of, say again the doors on Aztec, and letting one or two controlled bursts at said position is fine, but trying to carve a piece of fine furniture out of the doors with your carbine/ak is not. If that’s the case it seems fairly simple to understand and easy to follow, if I’m wrong feel free to correct me most people do.  

I personally think the biggest problem with door/wall spamming has got to be the distraction it causes to your team. Say on Aztec you have CT’s covering the bridge site, the double doors and people covering the water. Whenever you hear gunfire you immediately think that’s where the action is and wait for a call for backup. Now with shot bursts or the odd round fired that’s fine situation over you stay where you are, but if you hear constant fire of clip after clip you think it’s something more and if there is no call people may end up going to see if the situation requires backup leaving part of the map weakly defended if at all, which doesn’t help the team.

It could be suggested that unless it’s part of the plan, i.e. covering fire, only shoot what you can see (on the condition what you see isn’t on your team )

[smite]

Originally posted by Signal@Jan 10 2004, 02:27 PM
So basically it seems to boil down to someone laying covering fire on a position i.e. house window in Italy, to allow teammates to get into position is fine. Spotting or indeed hearing an enemy on the other side of, say again the doors on Aztec, and letting one or two controlled bursts at said position is fine, but trying to carve a piece of fine furniture out of the doors with your carbine/ak is not. If that’s the case it seems fairly simple to understand and easy to follow, if I’m wrong feel free to correct me most people do.

No you are correct well put.

[DarkAngel]

May i suggest that in the menu when you join the servers saying hello and welcome that a few guidlines could be writen down ie.

Welcome to the Meathook

1. No wallspamming
2.etc?

[OldBloke]

Originally posted by DarkAngel@Jan 10 2004, 07:30 PM
May i suggest that in the menu when you join the servers saying hello and welcome that a few guidlines could be writen down ie.

Welcome to the Meathook

1. No wallspamming
2.etc?

No.

TeaLeaf and I have spent hours 'writing things down'.

Read it. Remember it. Apply it.

If you need to remind others then do so.

[JB]

It's not just a 'Yes' or 'No' answer to wall spamming, you said basically the same yourself.