RG1 and Progress...

[Ashjen]

Well i must say even tho we had some trouble and it certainly could have been a better run to AQ40, i personally liked the way we would just try again til the boss really was down ! we really cant be worried about no repairs. Was definitely going to the right direction. finally i feel like were taking this seriously. excellent raid spirit ppl keep it up :happy::clap::clap:

also great JOb TL + officers for making it go much faster than we usually do it starting on time and not taking too much time beween pulls. yes today i am happy to be SoG

[Soulbringerx]

/Agree

[Dajo]

/love SoG

[Neff]

/love SoG

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[Luthor]

I have to add stuff here, i dont know if its relevant for us. but Danu Nephilimer. have removed DKP in Molten Core, its now pure rolls. Might that be posible for us. and it seems like they've reset there DKP pool for MC/BWL they have Seperate pools for each instance.
MC/BWL & AQ40 & Naxx
 
 
Luthor

[Gorion]

I have to add stuff here, i dont know if its relevant for us. but Danu Nephilimer. have removed DKP in Molten Core, its now pure rolls. Might that be posible for us. and it seems like they've reset there DKP pool for MC/BWL they have Seperate pools for each instance.
MC/BWL & AQ40 & Naxx
 
 
Luthor

imo that would increase the problem that ppl dont attend mc...

ie: i want items from aq40 and naxx, so then why even bother to show up for the rest? (sure theres the randomness factor, but randomness can be predicted..)

[Dajo]

so then why even bother to show up for the rest?

For the guilld, your friends, maybe?

[Voretex]

Luthor has outlined serious problems with our DKP system.

We use the same DKP system for all 3 instances.

MC
BWL
AQ
And probs naxx when it comes.

As we all know the DKP is hugely mofo inflated.  Im using this as an example (please no shouting at me)

Im going to use the druids Xyco and Vargen as examples here.

Xyco joined the guild couple of months ago, dedicated to raids, not seen him miss one yet, and holy hell he joins the guild and guess what? hes 3000 dkp behind Vargen, ouch in the face?

Thats equivilant to atleast 15 + drops. Before you all start shout "but lol, voretex he has been to more raids than Xyco, so he should get the loot first"

Oki oki, i agree with you there, vargen overall has put more work in that Xyco for all the instances (due to xyco joining later) BUT, hes done less work than vargen in AQ40. At present all the druids have ATLEAST 5 drops on xyco in any way or form, in BWL, some may say thats fine, but in AQ40 i think ouch thats a bitch for Xyco. He's put the SAME, if not more effort in than the rest of us druids, yet because of the insane amount of inflation from the DKP, he will always (assuming we all have the same attendance) be the LAST in line for any drops, providing all of us druids want it.

Tis just a big suggestion. I think we're the only guild i know that has the same dkp for all 3/4 40 man raid instances.

It would work great, if we all joined at the same time, but we didnt, some people have joined almost a year after the first DKP was issued.  

It all does make sense, and i feel sorry for people like Xyco who have no chance in hell of getting loot in AQ40 for a long time.

*edit, before u say " butt yooooo?! heee am got leggings in AQ40. He got them because no one wanted them at the time "

You know it makes sense

Sep dkp systems ftw

*edit 2 - cant believed i typed that much at 2:30am - its alot for me aiiiight - "

[Keltor]

agree wit nubtex

[Voretex]

Can you agree ughhh *comment on the post i made rather than on this thread, thought it deserved its own

[KreuZ]

The problem with the DKP system has been known since probably about 3 months into raiding with DanuSoG. At that time it was the best system found but the more we used it the more issues came up. Some issues people didn't even notice. It was suggested changing the DKP system alot of times ever since DanuSoG was still raiding but it has still not been changed and therefore has become even harder to change since then.