Blessing of Sanctuary and the raid

[Marduk]

agreed, but sometimes diplomacy wont cut it

[Gorion]

you fail to understand ime proving points, not trying to kill someone, and again as i stated before..

since you were the pally asking the question, i used your spec and changed it to include Bosanc without nerfing the raid group as you said

now, even if we dont take the talents in consideration heres a point summary:

Marduk's:
Holy:   25
Protection:   13
Retribution:   13

dummy:
Holy:   25
Protection:   21
Retribution:   5

as you can see, you could still heal the same youre healing, get all the buffs available, BUT loose more dps

so i qoute you again with your own argument:

this may sound like a nce blessing but the fact is that to get this blessing you have to "waste" a lot of talents that will not benefit the raid

ERROR: big fat lie detected!

the only thing youlle loose is DPS (which you dont do in raids anyways, so no losses there)

5% parry chance, that is not needed in raids by your own argument: (and i qoute again)

we rarely get agro, and even if we do we normaly bubble or have enough armor and reduction already

and 2seconds less colldown on judgements (which is not a big deal since ALL the pallys can judge and with a rotation in there, bol/bow would be up there all the time if wanted)(and there will be no big waste of mana, since youve got a good regen, and would be split on multiple pallys)

and with those out of the picture, you can still have ALL the blessings without reducing Raid performance, so the real question is:

so,what is your argument? and the reason you dont want to loose 8 talents in retri to get BoSanc.

answer: You dont want to loose more DPS(8 talents in retri tree) to get 8 talents in the prot tree and get the buff in question, BoSanc

now that, imho oppinion, is not a vaild point nor argument.

now i know youre ****ed off at me, and now youlle be more, but seriousely i dont care as long as i prove my point. still, no offence was ever intended. and i have nothing against you or any other pally... tbh i enjoy playing with you, even if that could change, ime doing this for the best

[Soalra]

gor please read my post about your dummy build i went through what u called useful talents and explained them, then u can edit ur post
 
cheers

[Bastet]

Maybe some ppl actualy like to do stuff outside raids, like 5 man partys, or helping alts in low level dungeons. You might not have a problem with sacrificing with everything by going full tank, but surely lots of ppl do.
 
And Gorion, taking an example is cool, but dont go after talent specs of ppl, they know and love it and feel deeply offended if you assault it/pick it appart.

[Marduk]

in other words gorion,
 

HANDS OFF MY DPS!!!!!

[Knabbel]

Dude your caps lock is stuck.....

[Marduk]

but i do wonder gorion, if you look at the healing meters i am ALWAYS amonst those tho have highest effective healing, and your telling me im not usefull enough for raiding ?
 
well if im not usefull i might as well spec 5 holy 15 protection 31 retribution....

[Gorion]

i dont use meteres,

and if i did say that, pls qoute me

[Marduk]

i did use meters this BWL run, and there is about 20 million healed between the top 10 healers, RAW healing that is
 
so those 0.24 million.. not that big a deal anymore now is it
 
that comes to about 1.2% of less healing needed,
with a average healer doing 30% overhealing its beginning to make less and less sence

[JanuZ]

just a quick question did you check how many hits incoming was total?

Anyway as i have said only way any pally would ever spec for BoSanct is if he only uses it for raids and then has alt for other things and the blessing doesn't really change that much.

[Gorion]

just a quick question did you check how many hits incoming was total?

unless some mod is released.. i doubt you can actually count it.. theres just too much hits...