Sorry

[delanvital]

Originally posted by suicidal_monkey@Jul 26 2005, 01:31 PM
I think so, depending what you mean by "freeze lag". My graphics stop updating smoothly (i.e. jerky graphics) and the game stops accepting inputs from the keyboard/mouse for frequent brief bursts in time with the graphical freezes.

I think I'm using the standard 5.7 catalysts with the .Net control centre thingy along with the associated AIW drivers. I have to say Nvidia drivers were definitely easier to install, update, and use. They didn't override my settings, they managed to uninstall previous versions cleanly themselves, and didn't offer up 10 different driver packages which I have to pick from assuming I know which ones I need...I think the AiW component makes it all the more confusing on the driver front but even so they could at least make it simple with one set of drivers for the graphics and another for the software packs for the AiW :frusty:

[post=89448]Quoted post[/post]

[/b]

What I mean by freeze, is that the screen is completely still for up to 10 seconds with no possible movement. Like a crash. The keyboard buffer is still accepting input though, and these keystrokes will be performed when the game reverts to normal. The game is overwise moving smoothly.

The R9600 is my first ATI card and I haven't really had much to do with driver download for those cards before. You are right - it could have been done a lot easier. To be frank, I just download what seems like the proper package and install - and I have learned that a clean uninstall is a much bigger task than with nVidia. That said, it is a very nice card and it works flawlessly... except with this BF2 cwap, for whatever reason...

[Thulsa Doom]

Is your PC folding during this?

[delanvital]

Originally posted by Thulsa Doom@Jul 26 2005, 02:09 PM
Is your PC folding during this?

[post=89451]Quoted post[/post]

[/b]

No I killed that proces also. The only processes I left running is the absolutely neecessary ones.

But the funny thing when I normally run the game I only clear the worst from my traybar and run the game, and it runs fine. I even let the f@h run in the background without any trouble normally. I just did this extreme thing while hoping to find the problem.

[Ranger]

Originally posted by OldBloke@Jul 25 2005, 11:27 PM
This looks like the 'sleeping hard disk' problem.

In other words, your BIOS is telling the hard disk to power down after x minutes inactivity. But then your game requires more data from the HDD so it has to spin up again and hence the lag. Check your power options in your BIOS.

[post=89426]Quoted post[/post]

[/b]

That's interesting Old Bloke...

What would be teh right settings in the bios power settings to stop this?

Cheers,

Ranger

[OldBloke]

Originally posted by Ranger@Jul 26 2005, 02:03 PM
That's interesting Old Bloke...

What would be teh right settings in the bios power settings to stop this?

Cheers,

Ranger

[post=89459]Quoted post[/post]

[/b]

You should find the options within the 'power' area of your BIOS. It's usually a simple case of the option (to power down the hard disks) being enabled or disabled.

[CoolHand]

I never had any lag problems, but I sure hope I'm not the cause. I started playing only yesterday (24.th july) on the DMW server.

I have a 2 SDSL Mbit connection. I use a Gainward Geforce 5700LE card (soon to be replaced by an 6800 ultra - no I'm not rich, I just did a good trade), K8N-E dekluxe MB, AMD 64 3300+ CPU, 1 GB ram.

I use the drivers for the AGP card that came on the DVD with BF2.

Did you have the lag problems before I joined you?

[delanvital]

Originally posted by CoolHand@Jul 26 2005, 10:48 PM
I never had any lag problems, but I sure hope I'm not the cause. I started playing only yesterday (24.th july) on the DMW server.

I have a 2 SDSL Mbit connection. I use a Gainward Geforce 5700LE card (soon to be replaced by an 6800 ultra - no I'm not rich, I just did a good trade), K8N-E dekluxe MB, AMD 64 3300+ CPU, 1 GB ram.

I use the drivers for the AGP card that came on the DVD with BF2.

Did you have the lag problems before I joined you?

[post=89524]Quoted post[/post]

[/b]

Actually no - but I doubt you are the reason

[delanvital]

So I reninstalled the game, defragged and updated to omega drivers. Had regular ATI drivers before. Still the same lag problem, I even had one where the game was still running (I could here chopper sounds and no bad sound loops)) but the screen went black for 10 seconds..?

[CoolHand]

Originally posted by delanvital@Jul 27 2005, 08:06 PM
So I reninstalled the game, defragged and updated to omega drivers. Had regular ATI drivers before. Still the same lag problem, I even had one where the game was still running (I could here chopper sounds and no bad sound loops)) but the screen went black for 10 seconds..?

[post=89628]Quoted post[/post]

[/b]

How about borrowing a GeForce card and try it out? Maybe one of your friends has one? I have an 5700LE available in a couple of days (when my 6800 hopefully arrives). I'll gladly send it to you for you to try, but it will take a day or four to reach you.

It is a blind shot, but did you try to ask EA?

[delanvital]

After reinstalling the drivers again (and with a thorough cleanup in between) + reinstalling the game on another drive I got it up and running... Phew...

[CoolHand]

Originally posted by delanvital@Jul 28 2005, 12:23 AM
After reinstalling the drivers again (and with a thorough cleanup in between) + reinstalling the game on another drive I got it up and running... Phew...

[post=89667]Quoted post[/post]

[/b]

Splendid!  

[Blunt]

Originally posted by CoolHand@Jul 27 2005, 11:25 PM
Splendid!  

[post=89669]Quoted post[/post]

[/b]

Cripes!
 :49_49:

[FBG]

I'll just add my 2p worth. Firstly the lag i experienced was at the start of the game. This lag was due to not having enough memory and paging to would cause the stutter. Once all the memory had most of what it need in memory the game would play normally.

Adding more ram removed the paging to disk and hence my stutter.

Of course you already have 1gb of ram but are your also using an on board sound card?? As that will suck up the memory so you infact have a lot less than you think.

Basically the game is memory hungry and as soon as your system bottlenecks you'll get lag. Everything has to be perfect for this game.

[delanvital]

Originally posted by FBG@Jul 28 2005, 10:41 AM
I'll just add my 2p worth. Firstly the lag i experienced was at the start of the game. This lag was due to not having enough memory and paging to would cause the stutter. Once all the memory had most of what it need in memory the game would play normally.

Adding more ram removed the paging to disk and hence my stutter.

Of course you already have 1gb of ram but are your also using an on board sound card?? As that will suck up the memory so you infact have a lot less than you think.

Basically the game is memory hungry and as soon as your system bottlenecks you'll get lag. Everything has to be perfect for this game.

[post=89692]Quoted post[/post]

[/b]

I have fixed my 10s freeze. I think it was either driver or disk related.

However, I am familiar with the bottlenecks, especially with 1GB system ram combined with only 128MB gfx RAM and it is probably the explanation for the regular jitter I have now. Even though I think it is a bit too jitterish for the specs i have - considering I only play in 1024x768 w. medium details.

Is it worth OC'ing the graphics card nowadays? Haven't done that since I had my Orchid Righteous 3DFx VooDoo card

Edit: Yes I use onboard sound

[A Twig]

I was thinking that as I only have 128MB gfx and onboard sound I may have to make mine 2 Gig as well. On the plus side the lag was nowhere near as bad last night.