Asmoden's fantastic inventions... OF DOOM!

[Asmoden]

I just wanted people (and TL) to know, that I have a gnomish engineering skill of 315 i am offering up my services.

Here is a complete list of all engineering recipies: List
With the exception of anything Goblin Engineering, i can make almost everything.
I am still missing recipy for:
Ultra-Flash Shadow Reflector
Force Reactive Disk
Core Marksman Rifle
Biznicks 247x128 Accurascope
I you fall over any of these, i will be happy to take them off your hand ;p

I am also able to make Rocket launchers and rockets for them. So if you want to make a party, just call ;p

[Bastet]

Originally posted by Asmoden@May 14 2006, 06:01 PM
that I have a gnomish engineering skill of 315 i am offering up my services.
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With the exception of anything Gnomish Engineering, i can make almost

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Typo?

[Asmoden]

argh my TANGOing TANGO  :ranting:  I hate when the TANGO TANGO's!!!..

But yes Bastet, that will be a typo  <_<

I have Gnome Engineering, and i am unable to make any >> GOBLIN << Engineering. Thankyou  :dummy:


btw, i find it very annoying that i cant edit my posts if i made them more than like 5 minutes ago... why is that?

[Bastet]

i can, sorted

[Asmoden]

I dont like you! No one likes a cheat!....grrr...grumble..


EDIT: oh, and ty ;p

[TeaLeaf]

The 5 minute delay is to stop people editing their posts to 'amend history' to suit their own preferred version.

TL.

[Alaha]

hi there, i would like to have one of those scopes

Biznicks 247x128 Accurascope

but the problem is 2x lavacore.
i talked to Teaelle about the lava cores.

[Mazii]

hi there, i would like to have one of those scopes
 
but the problem is 2x lavacore.
i talked to Teaelle about the lava cores.

He still need that one

[Spi]

I can make the shadow reflectors, and I lost the roll for the rifle and shield lol.
 
The scope is a waste of an enchant, in my personal opinion, sniper scope is superior, unless you dont use your ranged as your main attack.

[TeaLeaf]

I can make the shadow reflectors, and I lost the roll for the rifle and shield lol.
 
The scope is a waste of an enchant, in my personal opinion, sniper scope is superior, unless you dont use your ranged as your main attack.

I happen to be getting a Biznicks Scope for my hunter and was looking for someone who could make them who might be online.  I'm kind of wondering if I missed something monmumental in assessing the scope as best for my weapon or if Spi was on a total fruitcake of a planet the day he wrote this comment?

My hunter is not hit capped, therefore increased +hit has a direct increase on my damage.

Yes I could go for a +damage scope (let's assume +12) scope as suggested by Spi, but put simplisitically I would be getting about a third or less of the increased DPS that the +hit scope would have given me.

Or I could go for the +28 crit rating scope but that again gives less then the +hit.  Further, as I believe crits are rolled before the miss roll any miss will reduce your +crit benefit.

So why on earth did Spi think a +damage is better than a +hit scope?  The only circumstances I think where it might be better are if you are hit capped and I do not believe there are many people who are!  Or did I miss something?

TL.

[Lucian]

TL - best thing you can get for +hit is the desolation set - two pieces gives a +35 bonus (bloody huge increase)...

[TeaLeaf]

Yep, that may well be acquired.  For the moment my +hit rating is 70 (4.44%), so as the base miss against an even level opponent is 5.6% (add +1% miss for every level higher, so 8.6% miss for lvl 73 mob) then +hit seems to work for me.

Hit Rating - Converts to hit at 15.8:1, so when I reach 136 hit rating I will be hit capped.  My current 70, plus 30 from the planned scope, plus 35 from the 2 piece desolation sets would seem to be an ideal combination provising me with 135 hit rating.

I think Spi may have meant that "it would be pointless adding more +hit if you are already +hit capped", but that's not quite what he said.

TL.

[Sandrion]

Physical miss chance is a lot lower vs mobs that are 3 levels higher then then spell miss chance. For physical it's 5% + ((5 * 0.04%) * lvldiff); so 5.6% base miss chance vs a level 73 mob. For spells the base miss chance is 17% vs a level 73 mob. (Arcane shot may be an exception, since it does spell damage instead of physical, but I'm by no means sure about that.)
 
5.6% isn't very hard to get. You'll easily hit the cap with an item or three and a trinket.
 
Additionally hunters use a one roll system (hit table) to determain if something is a miss, hit or crit instead of two rolls like casters do (first one for miss/hit and afterwards one for normal hit/crit). Consequently +hit doesn't affect your crit chance as a Hunter, but as a caster it does. (Which is why +hit > +crit for casters.)
 
Overall the +damage scope is probably superior to the +hit one. Unless you haven't reached the +hit cap yet ofcourse, which should be your first priority.

[TeaLeaf]

5.6% isn't very hard to get. You'll easily hit the cap with an item or three and a trinket.

I think you'll find the 5.6% is base against equal level mob, not against L73 (as explained in my post above).  So it is 8.6% or 136 HR that is the goal not a lowly 5.6%.  At least this is what Wowwiki and Elitist Jerks currently say.  Do you have a link to other info sites showing 5.6% against a L73 mob?

TL.

[Sandrion]

From http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Weapon_Skill:

A player's chance to miss in PVE is also greatly affected by difference in mobs' defense and the player's attack rating.

• If the monster's defense is 1 to 10 points greater than your weapon skill, you suffer 0.1% chance to miss per point.
• If the difference is more than 10, the penalty is doubled to 0.2% per point

(The last two links on this page refer to stickies on the Blizz boards which also mention a base miss chance of 5.6% vs level 63 bosses).
 
And from http://www.wowwiki.com/Miss:

Miss chance against a low-level mob is a percentage of normal equal to the mob’s level divided by 10. When a player or other mob attacks a mob, the change in miss chance is 0.2% per rating difference if that rating difference is 11 or more. If the rating difference is 10 or less then the change in miss chance is 0.1% per point. If the attacker and defender have the same ratings then of course the total miss chance will be 5%.

I couldn't find any article that clearly states the miss chance vs level 73 bosses. Half of the articles say 5.6% the other half 8.6%, but none give an explaination. If you have a link to an article that explains this, would you mind posting a link to it, I'm starting to doubt my own words :unsure: .