Racing sim hardware

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Gnomie

If you do get the ACT Labs thing, be sure to share your thoughts. I've been considering that one as well. :)

vobler

A fellow iRacer is just lounching his mod for the G25 brake pedal. Looks good, is easy to install and people (beta testers) seem to like it.

His web page just opened.
http://www.apelectrix.com/index.html

Gnomie

Interesting! Unfortunately he doesn't say anything about what is offering the resistance. Is it a rubber block, a spring or foam (as in the Clubsports)? That is essential to how it's going to feel. In principle, if he's using a spring it will feel no different to a stock G25. So it would be nice to know what's inside. :)

delankster

QuoteThe modification offered here uses a special load sensor integrated with a mechanical actuator that is specially designed to fit into the assembly without any further difficult modification by the user.


hope this helps :)
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obsolum

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Quote from: Gnomie;293058If you do get the ACT Labs thing, be sure to share your thoughts. I've been considering that one as well. :)
Will do. I'm sad to say that it probably won't happen this year, though :sad: Being poor sucks :angry:

EDIT: does your Fanatec wheel not have a gated shifter?

Quote from: vobler;293077A fellow iRacer is just lounching his mod for the G25 brake pedal. Looks good, is easy to install and people (beta testers) seem to like it.

His web page just opened.
http://www.apelectrix.com/index.html
Looks interesting. I have the nixim mod on my wishlist, but this looks like something better. It's more expensive as well, unfortunately, but that's to be expected. I'll keep this in mind if I ever get the money to mod my brake pedal.

Katsushika Matsumoto

Quote from: Gnomie;292473The net result: I am now able to maintain an (approximately) constant amount of braking when heel&toe-ing! :yahoo: To illustrate, I'm attaching two replays: one old one with the G25, and a new one with the Clubsports. You'll quite clearly see the difference, I think.

Well I checked the replay's, and to be honest I'm quite surprised by the difference, with the clubsport it looks so much more controlled (what i can tell from the inputs).

I'm gonna watch my own replays to see how my brake pedal input looks :blink:

I haven't made any mods to my G25 pedal set, but I'm looking to raising the brake pedal in the future.

Gnomie

To be honest I was quite surprised myself when I went back and looked at that old LFS replay. But it kind of makes sense when you think about it.. the Nixim mod gives a very stiff resistance and maybe 1 cm of travel, so even just lifting by a millimeter or two would give a huge impact.

Actually that's probably the worst thing about the Nixim mod. It feels good and it's better for threshold braking than stock G25 pedals (IMO) but it's not easy to do good h&t with it, I think.

Quote from: ObsolumEDIT: does your Fanatec wheel not have a gated shifter?

I didn't buy the Fanatec shifter. I still have my old broken G25 connected to the PC, and I'm using the shifter only. :) Very cluttered and not the best solution, but it works.

Katsushika Matsumoto

Quote from: vobler;293077A fellow iRacer is just lounching his mod for the G25 brake pedal. Looks good, is easy to install and people (beta testers) seem to like it.

His web page just opened.
http://www.apelectrix.com/index.html

Looks very interesting, just send him an email for some additional information.

By the way, I also found someone else working on a loadcell modification for the G25 : http://www.h-engineering.nl/h_g25press.htm

It's a pit pricey though, well we'll see how it works out :)

I think it's by the guy that also develop the rFactor supra mod, but I'm not exactly sure.

obsolum

Quote from: Katsushika Matsumoto;293176I think it's by the guy that also develop the rFactor supra mod, but I'm not exactly sure.
Yep, Niels Heusinkveld. He didn't just do the Supra mod, he also made the Corvette mod and did a lot of the cars in the HistorX mod.

He also sells the G25 pad kit, to adjust the pedals to your needs. That's also on my wishlist :)

Gnomie

Quote from: obsolum;293202Yep, Niels Heusinkveld. He didn't just do the Supra mod, he also made the Corvette mod and did a lot of the cars in the HistorX mod.

He also sells the G25 pad kit, to adjust the pedals to your needs. That's also on my wishlist :)
While I agree that Niels has made a lot of nice stuff, the G25 pedal mod seems rather unnecessary to me.. it's super simple to make something similar yourself out of wood. But if you want to go and spend €30 I'm not going to stop you. :)

obsolum

Quote from: Gnomie;293211While I agree that Niels has made a lot of nice stuff, the G25 pedal mod seems rather unnecessary to me.. it's super simple to make something similar yourself out of wood. But if you want to go and spend €30 I'm not going to stop you. :)
Yeah, I've been thinking the same thing. But I don't know, it would look like crap if you made it out of wood, IMO. Plus, I'm not really much of a DIY guy :D I did build our house with the help of an uncle, though, but somehow I don't want to try and make a pedal mod myself :lmfao:

obsolum

Well, after reading some more reviews and watching some videos of the ACT Labs RS shifter I decided to buy one. I'll get a tax refund by the end of next month so I figured I could indulge myself just a little bit :D

It's supposed to be better than the G25 shifter, it's easily customizable and it's cheaper than the SST Lightning so that seemed like a good deal to me. No doubt the SST is better as far as quality is concerned, but I really hate how it looks and I can't make peace with the fact it has no sequential option.

Only downside so far... it takes 3 to 6 weeks to ship the shifter outside of the US. And you all know what a patient guy I am... :lmfao:

Romus

Get the SST and then modify the BMW E39 shifter: http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=336178

I got the SST in about one week after I had ordered it. :narnar:

You can change the SST knob if you like, but I think it's great. It has a great feel also, a bit grippy feel, it's made of a sort of dense rubber.

delankster

i have tried the SST and must admit it is a really good shifter and as romus mention has a great feel to it
i found it so much easier to use than my g25 shifter :D
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obsolum

Quote from: Romus;293293Get the SST and then modify the BMW E39 shifter: http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=336178
Yeah... not gonna try that :)

Quote from: Romus;293293You can change the SST knob if you like, but I think it's great. It has a great feel also, a bit grippy feel, it's made of a sort of dense rubber.
Well, I haven't tried the SST myself, but I read in a review somewhere that it was not designed to feel realistic, but designed to be easy to use. I don't know what to make of that :g: I watched several videos of it, and aside from the fact that it looks ridiculous, it also didn't seem to "behave" like a real shifter. But then neither does the G25 shifter. One review I read about the ACT said that the shifting "feels similar to what you feel when you shift in your real car". I don't really believe that, but it leads me to believe that it at least feels better than the G25 shifter.

Like I said, I have no doubt that the SST is better, but seeing as I find the ACT better looking, it is easily customizable - you can change it into a 4-gate, 6-gate or 8-gate shifter and put virtually any knob for a real shifter on it -, it can be changed to be sequential and it is cheaper, I think I got a better deal than I would have had with the SST :) Of course, that's just my personal opinion. If you're happy using a funny looking stick with a ball on it, and the paddles for sequential shifting then obviously the SST is great :D But like I said, I can't make peace with that :)

Of course I'll reserve definitive judgement for when I've actually tried the shifter. If it feels better than the G25 shifter then I'm happy. I don't think that's expecting too much :)