wireless networks

Started by Armitage, June 22, 2006, 01:36:13 PM

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Armitage

I don't have one at home, but i have just got a new laptop from work. I have noticed just how many people DON'T put any security on there routers.

I am sitting in my car having some lunch and i have my choice of networks to access. :whistle:


So if you have a wireless netwok just take a look and add some security.

suicidal_monkey

just switching plain old simple WEP on should ward of the casual drifting laptop-carriers as there's enough unsecured stuff out there for them to pick and choose from! :) ...adding in MAC filtering helps I find
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delanvital

Yes, WEP and MAC-filtering does the job IMHO. As you say, with that enabled there are plenty of easier targets out there.

Jamoe

WEP, MAC-filtering and static IPs over here.

Penfold

QuoteOriginally posted by Jamoe@Jun 22 2006, 02:51 PM
WEP, MAC-filtering and static IPs over here.
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I have a wep installed but am not sure what mac-filtering is?

If I only use my laptop on my wireless connection how do I work the MAC-filtering thingy?

Thanks

PEN

delanvital

QuoteOriginally posted by ThePENDRAGON@Jun 22 2006, 04:41 PM
I have a wep installed but am not sure what mac-filtering is?

If I only use my laptop on my wireless connection how do I work the MAC-filtering thingy?

Thanks

PEN
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MAC-filtering means only allowing network cards on your network with a particular MAC-address. And such an address is unique to every netcard. It is typically written on a little sticker at the bottom of your laptop.

You need to access your router and find your filtering menu, often under advanced setup. What make and model is your router?

Jamoe

QuoteOriginally posted by ThePENDRAGON@Jun 22 2006, 02:41 PM
I have a wep installed but am not sure what mac-filtering is?

If I only use my laptop on my wireless connection how do I work the MAC-filtering thingy?

Thanks

PEN
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Start > Run > cmd

type ipconfig /all

and you should be presented with lots of info.

u should see something like  this.

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-12-F0-B7-65-6F

thats a MAC address


whats your router model?

Cadaver

At home I have:
  • MAC filtering enabled
  • WPA-PSK encryption with >10 character key
  • SSID broadcast disabled
  • Non-standard and restricted LAN IP range
Paranoid? Me?  :)

If some bugger really wants to hack my network, then so be it.  I ain't making it easy for 'em though...  :ph34r:
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Set a man on fire, and he\'ll be warm for the rest of his life."

Anonymous

QuoteOriginally posted by Cadaver@Jun 22 2006, 03:48 PM
At home I have:
  • WPA-PSK encryption with >10 character key




  • SSID broadcast disabled






If some bugger really wants to hack my network, then so be it.  I ain't making it easy for 'em though...  :ph34r:
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Mmmm!

To get 256bit WPA encryption you actually need a 63 character key.
SSID is broadcast in clear with every packet anyway so hiding it just makes it more difficult to actually get a connection yourself :D

Here are 3 random 63 character keys:

LUYklX&H5K1
iwC>AJJMxk'dj@cG.'!sVDFsg~4D8`'o&62jY8-!2J!!6jCzPi&Dv.*~\5PhU0F

jDSFXSjZ/7i,Y
mix them up and use them as passwords for your wireless network :)

I used Password Guru to make the keys - it's free - http://www.cezeo.com/products/passwordsguru/

Cadaver

QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall@Jun 22 2006, 04:54 PM
Mmmm!

To get 256bit WPA encryption you actually need a 63 character key.
I know that.  I said I had >10 characters in my key as I didn't want to say how many I actually had.  I could be using 63.  :whistle: ;)

QuoteSSID is broadcast in clear with every packet anyway so hiding it just makes it more difficult to actually get a connection yourself :D
I know that as well.   ;)
However, I also know my wireless network is there and what it's called.  Others don't.  Doesn't take too long to enter that info in manually when connecting a new device for the first time.

If  someone were to do a scan for my wifi network, they should just see an unnamed network (if indeed their scan sees one at all).  I doubt a random bloke with a laptop could be fagged with the extra step of trying to guess my SSID.  Especially as my both my neighbours are broadcasting theirs.  :doh:

My measures are only deterrents for a casual hacker, and just the way I do things (caveat: they're not necessarily the best way either).  I have no doubt that if somebody was desperate enough to hack my l'il ol' network, it could be done.  :dummy:
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Set a man on fire, and he\'ll be warm for the rest of his life."

DogMeat

QuoteOriginally posted by delanvital@Jun 22 2006, 04:15 PM
MAC-filtering means only allowing network cards on your network with a particular MAC-address. And such an address is unique to every netcard.
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Don't count on it...

http://www.google.com/search?q=mac+spoofing
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delanvital

QuoteOriginally posted by DogMeat@Jun 22 2006, 08:27 PM
Don't count on it...

http://www.google.com/search?q=mac+spoofing
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Yeah I know that. You had to spoil it, didn't you  ;) As before, better than nothin'!  :D

suicidal_monkey

none of it is completely secure but at least some of it is harder to break!
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A Twig

I quite enjoy having other people on my network. Great way to meet new people. Dear god, I'm still very drunk...
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Othbarty

And another friendly reminder :)

If you are using a Intel Pro Wireless 2200 B/G card remember to update your driver ;)  The one that comes with the card/laptop usually sends out corrupted packages that makes some routers crash :) Found that out the hard way...  :dummy:
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