(Field) Mashal's Chat

Started by Bastet, June 28, 2006, 11:24:00 AM

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Bastet

* work out recruitment with rg2 leaders, > gonne get more say over defenders
* work out attendance with rg2 leaders, > 4/6 attendance
* work out attendance with rg1 leaders, > 5/6 attendance
* us deciding on what we need class wise, > after meet
* work out raid days with rg2 leaders, > longer away
* work out dkp site with rg1 / rg2 leaders, > old system kept in use also for aq40, no dropping over time (% or otherwise)
* talk about the 20 man raids with commanders. >
* also initiates need a looking at, some are in over a month and are awaiting promotion or cancelation >
* alts and fire res kit > only request. (warrior)
* and dkp for BWL > 35 kill + 70 first kill nefarion
Aszune (Alliance):
Sokhar lv 80 (H/M) Warrior, Sokhár lv 80 (H/M) Death Knight, Beset lv 70 (NE/F) Druid, Bastet lv 70 (NE/F) Rogue, Mentu lv 70 (Dr/M) Shaman
-=[dMw]=-Bastet (CSS) / -=[dMw]=-Niwa (BF2) / -=dMw=- Sokhar (BF2142)
-=[dMw]=- MVP Award Holder (June 2006) Winning team -=[dMw]=- Christmas Crunch (2008)

Bastet

Aszune (Alliance):
Sokhar lv 80 (H/M) Warrior, Sokhár lv 80 (H/M) Death Knight, Beset lv 70 (NE/F) Druid, Bastet lv 70 (NE/F) Rogue, Mentu lv 70 (Dr/M) Shaman
-=[dMw]=-Bastet (CSS) / -=[dMw]=-Niwa (BF2) / -=dMw=- Sokhar (BF2142)
-=[dMw]=- MVP Award Holder (June 2006) Winning team -=[dMw]=- Christmas Crunch (2008)

Bastet

Added point, adding DKP for alts instructions :)
alts and fire res kit
and dkp for BWL
Aszune (Alliance):
Sokhar lv 80 (H/M) Warrior, Sokhár lv 80 (H/M) Death Knight, Beset lv 70 (NE/F) Druid, Bastet lv 70 (NE/F) Rogue, Mentu lv 70 (Dr/M) Shaman
-=[dMw]=-Bastet (CSS) / -=[dMw]=-Niwa (BF2) / -=dMw=- Sokhar (BF2142)
-=[dMw]=- MVP Award Holder (June 2006) Winning team -=[dMw]=- Christmas Crunch (2008)

TeaLeaf

I haven't forgotten.  Will get round to 'wording it' later today.

TL.
TL.
Wisdom doesn\'t necessarily come with age. Sometimes age just shows up all by itself.  (Tom Wilson)
Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)

Bastet

okee :) looking forward to it
Aszune (Alliance):
Sokhar lv 80 (H/M) Warrior, Sokhár lv 80 (H/M) Death Knight, Beset lv 70 (NE/F) Druid, Bastet lv 70 (NE/F) Rogue, Mentu lv 70 (Dr/M) Shaman
-=[dMw]=-Bastet (CSS) / -=[dMw]=-Niwa (BF2) / -=dMw=- Sokhar (BF2142)
-=[dMw]=- MVP Award Holder (June 2006) Winning team -=[dMw]=- Christmas Crunch (2008)

TeaLeaf

QuoteOriginally posted by Bastet@Jun 28 2006, 11:24 AM
* work out recruitment with rg2 leaders, > gonne get more say over defenders
* work out attendance with rg2 leaders, > 4/6 attendance
* work out attendance with rg1 leaders, > 5/6 attendance
* us deciding on what we need class wise, > after meet
* work out raid days with rg2 leaders, > longer away
* work out dkp site with rg1 / rg2 leaders, > old system kept in use also for aq40, no dropping over time (% or otherwise)
* talk about the 20 man raids with commanders. >
* also initiates need a looking at, some are in over a month and are awaiting promotion or cancelation >
* alts and fire res kit > only request. (warrior)
* and dkp for BWL > 35 kill + 70 first kill nefarion
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The Officers had a 3 and a half hour meeting on Friday and reached some conclusions on several issues.  

Defender Rank
Currently Marshalls are not party to the decisions over who joins the Defender rank and therefore RG2.  The Field Marshalls have decided that it is appropriate that from now on they are involved in the recruitment process and make decisions over who should or should not be given Defender rank and their gain access to RG2.

Attendance
As you know this has been a problem for the last 3 months for both raid groups.  We have waited for a long time for the attendance to improve, we've asked when people expect to return to raiding and waited until we have passed the date at which they said their raid attendance would improve.  We've been as patient as we can afford ot be without triggering the loss of some current raiding members.  We now need to take action and the Field Marshalls have agreed the following steps:

Recruitment
Our aim has always been to provide the best environment within which the SoG members can raid and progress through high levle instances.  We are one of the top Guilds on the server and we intend to continue to support members and PVE instance raiding in the best way possible. The Field Marshalls have monitored raid attendance for some time now and we have comprehensive records as to who has attended, which raids they attend, which members are DKP whores (i.e. they attend on the clearance day but are rarely if ever present to die with the other raid members on 'learning the fight day' days) and therefore know the level of attendance for each class and for each member over the last few months.  The email survey conducted some weeks back along with the Holiday and Short-Term Absence threads have also provided us with information regarding attendance which we have factored into our deliberations.

Our conclusion is that more Guardian members will be probably be needed, although no more than 1 additional member per class and not all classes will necessarily need the additional member.  Final decisions on which classes need an extra member will be taken by the Field Marshalls after the SoG Meet concludes.  

We have also concluded that more RG2 members are needed and Marshalls will make final decisions on which Defender classes need an extra member after the SoG Meet concludes.  

Attendance - RG1
With immediate effect we have increased the required attendance to 5 out of 6.  We will monitor attendance and if you fail to meet the required standard we will be speaking to you about your rank and whether or not you wish to give up your Guardian status or meet the required standards.  Holiday and Short-Term Absence threads exist on the forums to help us plan and manage the 40 man raids, so we do not intend to be draconian when you have your 2 weeks in the sun.  But, if you are absent without telling us then please do not be surprised if when you come back you have lost your rank!  

Attendance - RG2
RG2 started as a casual raid group but progress is now being hit by the unpredicatable nature of Defender attendance and constant need to train people who haven't been in the instance before (soldiers who end up in RG2 raids or Defenders who have not been there for a while and who have forgotten the fights). The Field Marshalls and Marshalls therefore decided to implement an attendance requirement for RG2 and will ask Defender members to attend 4 out of 6 raids.  Attendance will be monitored and reviewed on the same basis as RG1 by the Marshalls.

DKP
A retrospective DKP adjustment has been made to the Nefarian first kill.  This is now recorded on the DKP site and the recent first kill has been amended to a value of 70 DKP points.  Nefarian kills from now on will also get an increased DKP value of 35 instead of 25.

TL.
TL.
Wisdom doesn\'t necessarily come with age. Sometimes age just shows up all by itself.  (Tom Wilson)
Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)

KreuZ

I still don't get why we're increasing Nefarian DKP but having the others the same.

Padding

Excellent stuff, however as i said from the start i might not be able to make 5/6. If you think this is a problem for me as an officer and RG1 member, i will need to know it soon


Bastet

Kreuz:

Cause nefarion is a significant leap in difficulty over the other bosses, and we dont want to go back and change tons of dkp by hand (changing the event only modifys it for future use, not past use)

Padding:

I dont think it will be a problem, but id like to have a chat with or about the ppl that fail to make higher then 50% attendance.
Aszune (Alliance):
Sokhar lv 80 (H/M) Warrior, Sokhár lv 80 (H/M) Death Knight, Beset lv 70 (NE/F) Druid, Bastet lv 70 (NE/F) Rogue, Mentu lv 70 (Dr/M) Shaman
-=[dMw]=-Bastet (CSS) / -=[dMw]=-Niwa (BF2) / -=dMw=- Sokhar (BF2142)
-=[dMw]=- MVP Award Holder (June 2006) Winning team -=[dMw]=- Christmas Crunch (2008)

TeaLeaf

QuoteOriginally posted by Bastet@Jul 3 2006, 08:04 AM
Padding:

I dont think it will be a problem, but id like to have a chat with or about the ppl that fail to make higher then 50% attendance.
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Ditto. We should apply rules compassionately and with due regard to individual circumstances.

I'll get my coat..............
:getmecoat:
(no reason to say that other than an excuse to use the new avatar)

TL.
TL.
Wisdom doesn\'t necessarily come with age. Sometimes age just shows up all by itself.  (Tom Wilson)
Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)

Bastet

Allthough, when a 5/6 attendance is asked, and you fail to make 3/6, then i think its gonne be wearing a bit thin, till then i dont really see a problem. other then the fact we dont get too many applications at this time, maybe some1 can put something on the unofficial and offical aszune forums saying that we are looking for more ppl :)
Aszune (Alliance):
Sokhar lv 80 (H/M) Warrior, Sokhár lv 80 (H/M) Death Knight, Beset lv 70 (NE/F) Druid, Bastet lv 70 (NE/F) Rogue, Mentu lv 70 (Dr/M) Shaman
-=[dMw]=-Bastet (CSS) / -=[dMw]=-Niwa (BF2) / -=dMw=- Sokhar (BF2142)
-=[dMw]=- MVP Award Holder (June 2006) Winning team -=[dMw]=- Christmas Crunch (2008)

TeaLeaf

QuoteOriginally posted by Bastet@Jul 3 2006, 10:34 AM
maybe some1 can put something on the unofficial and offical aszune forums saying that we are looking for more ppl :)
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Done.

TL.
TL.
Wisdom doesn\'t necessarily come with age. Sometimes age just shows up all by itself.  (Tom Wilson)
Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)

Padding

Did you write something with: highly qualified and well specced?

Would be best if we got some really good players with epic equipment


Bastet

Can some1 provide a link to said post? since i cant recall the inet of the forums for the love of god :o
Aszune (Alliance):
Sokhar lv 80 (H/M) Warrior, Sokhár lv 80 (H/M) Death Knight, Beset lv 70 (NE/F) Druid, Bastet lv 70 (NE/F) Rogue, Mentu lv 70 (Dr/M) Shaman
-=[dMw]=-Bastet (CSS) / -=[dMw]=-Niwa (BF2) / -=dMw=- Sokhar (BF2142)
-=[dMw]=- MVP Award Holder (June 2006) Winning team -=[dMw]=- Christmas Crunch (2008)

TeaLeaf

TL.
Wisdom doesn\'t necessarily come with age. Sometimes age just shows up all by itself.  (Tom Wilson)
Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)