Monitor overhealing

[Sandrion]

Does anyone know of a mod that shows the amount of overheal over a certain period of time?

Damage meters does have a healing and a net healing graph. If I compare the two I can get some indication about how much I overheal. I would however like to get more exact numbers, so I can experiment a bit and work on reducing my amount of overheal.

After the last AQ20 run I looked at my damage meters and noticed that I was number 3 on healing meters and 4th on net healing (Marduk healed slightly less then me but was more efficient). Not bad, but there certainly is room for improvement.

[Bastet]

Druid by nature overheals quite a lot, cause they have slow big heals, vs the fast small heals from a paladin, if you have some good gear you can start using lower rank regrowth and HT (i think vargen uses arround the lvl 30 spells)

[Sandrion]

I'm mainly using rank 4 HT, since it's the most mana efficient healing spell we have in terms on HP/mana with +healing gear taken into account (I've got +300 atm). The cast time is slightly faster too (2.5sec). I know Rejuvenation will cause overheal because it's a HoT effect, but I'm trying to localize the main cause of overhealing. If it's the HoT effects on the MT it's fine. If it's caused by something else I might be able to work on that.

[Sandrion]

I found one. It's called Recap, it's similar to damage meters but well ... better.

I tried again yesterday evening in AQ20. It turns out I'm mainly overhealing when we're fighting trashmobs and are not taking a lot of damage. The priests and pallies are just a bit faster then me and I'm too late with cancelling my heals  <_< (blames lag ...). On boss fights, when more people are taking damage my efficiency goes up considerably and only rejuvenation on the tanks causes overheal  :thumb: .

[Mazii]

Think I might try that addon  :thumb:

[Bob]

Originally posted by Sandrion+Jul 3 2006, 11:06 AM-->

QUOTE(Sandrion @ Jul 3 2006, 11:06 AM)

Does anyone know of a mod that shows the amount of overheal over a certain period of time?

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Originally posted by Sandrion@Jul 4 2006, 08:37 PM
I found one. It's called Recap, it's similar to damage meters but well ... better.

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I was just going to suggest that one.  I have used that almost since I started raiding, and even though it's fare from accurate, it gives you a pretty ok idea about how your overhealing goes

Originally posted by Bastet@Jul 3 2006, 11:32 AM
Druid by nature overheals quite a lot, cause they have slow big heals, vs the fast small heals from a paladin

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I beg to differ Bastet.  I try to monitor my own overhealing in all raids (sometimes for the whole raid, other times only during a boss fight), and I tend to find that I'm among those who does the least overhealing.  As I've said recap isn't the most accurate thing you can use, but in many cases the numbers are so clear that I can for certain say that both many of the palas and priests have more overhealing that I have.

[Sandrion]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I'll post my healing strategy later today (need to work), we might indeed learn something from eachother.

One thing I did notice is that Recap doesn't register the HoT effect of regrowth as overheal if the target is at full health. Maybe it's a bug in the version I downloaded; a new version came out yesterday so I'll check if it that has the same 'error'. This might explain the 5-10% difference in efficiency between regrowth and HT, since the initial heal of regrowth is smaller and thus is less likely to overheal.

[Bob]

Where did you find that new version of Recap that you're talking about?  The one at Curse Gaming hasn't been updated since 16. of January this year...

[suicidal_monkey]

everytime I see this thread I think "why doesn't that guy post in the hardware section if his monitor is overheating" ... then I realise it's not a spelling mistake in the subject

[Sandrion]

Oops, I got mixed up with KTMTreathMeters.
There is no new version of Recap yet, sorry for that  :blush: .

As to my 'monitor overheating', yes I sort of have a problem with that too. It 'flat lined' five times already  :angry:  (single white line on the screen, no vertical deflection). I'm currently looking for a new one, but they kind of stopped making CRT's and I just can't bring myself to it to buy an LCD (you got either good image quality or good response time, you can't have both   ).

[suicidal_monkey]

Originally posted by Sandrion@Jul 6 2006, 10:44 AM
you can't have both

I reckon you'd be pleasantly surprised by the current stock of LCDs...

[Asheera]

the last version of scrolling combat text shows you the overheal for each heal u do (set with /sct)

[Sandrion]

Originally posted by Sandrion@Jul 6 2006, 10:49 AM
I'll post my healing strategy later today

Well here it goes.

Mainly I'm using HT rank 4, since it's very mana efficient if you have enough +healing gear. If the rate of incoming damage is too high and I can't keep up with HT rank 4, I'll switch to higher rank heals, still slightly underhealing my target so I don't waste any mana; unless my target is taking damage, like the tanks (an overhealed tank is better then a dead tank). Watching you targets health while casting a healing spell is also very important, it's no use healing someone with a full health bar . I also try to keep rejuvenation on the tanks depending on the rate they are taking damage and the rate they're getting healed. I hardly ever use regrowth, because its HoT effect is usually wasted. It is however usefull in emergencies, since the HoT effect can keep your target alive while you're casting a big heal on them.

I also checked Recap again and it indeed doesn't seem to register the HoT effect of regrowth. After a baron run it showed 13% overheal for HT and 4% for regrowth (which can't be true). If you check the details for regrowth, the 'ticks' field is also blank, unlike the one for rejuvenation. If you reset Recap and cast regrowth on yourself you'll see that only the initial amount of healing shows up. Too bad, other then that it's a great mod.

[Sandrion]

Originally posted by Asheera@Jul 6 2006, 06:15 PM
the last version of scrolling combat text shows you the overheal for each heal u do (set with /sct)

Nice, might give that a try.

[Voretex]

Overhealing from HOTs dont come up in anyway in the combat log, etc. So they cant be monitored.

so unless u just use HT, ur overhealing is gonna be highhhhh