20 man runs

lunares · August 24, 2006, 11:14:35 PM

Today Rg2 had not enough members for BWL or MC and you decided to go to ZG. Me and kreg where pretty surprised about this. We saw it when you almost where in there and the planning we had now is not valid anymore due to resets. Next time plz ask us first cause this is pretty annoying personally.

Lunares

Nefrion · August 25, 2006, 07:12:56 AM

If people have signed up for tonight's ZG they should be smart enough to leave not join for ZG yesterday.

Actually a lot of people did leave the raid because they were signed up!

Bastet · August 25, 2006, 07:41:22 AM

Still, you could have at least talked to the commanders first, its like them setting up a RG2 raid w/ non of you beeing consulted, it stings, and isnt very considered, specialy since lunares and kreg where both online and availible for a chat.

TeaLeaf · August 25, 2006, 07:50:38 AM

I can understand that what was done was with the best of intentions due tot he poor attendance, but I would fully support the above comments, you should have spoken to Lunares and the Commanders about it first. Relying on Defenders to leave your ZG run and remember they are signed up for one the following day is dubious at the best of times as most of them only remember their head as it is permanently attached

TL.

Nefrion · August 25, 2006, 10:01:11 AM

We did write in officers channel that we were considering going to ZG because of the lacking attendance. I do believe we posted it at least 10mins before we informed the raid that they should start moving to ZG.

Sazgul · August 25, 2006, 10:31:29 AM

Quote from: Nefrion;145754We did write in officers channel that we were considering going to ZG because of the lacking attendance. I do believe we posted it at least 10mins before we informed the raid that they should start moving to ZG.

We did. Im pretty sure about that.
And also talked on TS about people that had signed up for todays ZG wasent allowed in yesterdays ZG run.

So we kinda took most precautions here, tho not speaking to the Commanders was wrong. (it kinda never crossed my mind - I actually didnt know we were supposed to)

Bastet · August 25, 2006, 11:28:38 AM

Reofficer chat, it dont get read during bossfights, and only 1 commander has access to it.

Nefrion · August 25, 2006, 11:39:52 AM

Thats not our problem is it?

TeaLeaf · August 25, 2006, 11:51:15 AM

Quote from: Nefrion;145780Thats not our problem is it?

Clearly it is.

TL.

Nefrion · August 25, 2006, 12:03:19 PM

We didnt think about going directly to the commanders. We posted it in the officers chat and it cant see how it would be our problem that some people doesnt read it.

TL it seems that you were aware that we should have talked to the commanders. Why didnt you inform them that we were planning on doing a ZG run? You read the officers chat, right?

TeaLeaf · August 25, 2006, 12:12:51 PM

Nefrion,

If you know what the Commanders run the 20 man raids and you know that they go to ZG and AQ20 then what on earth gives you the impression that we should monitor your RG2 discussion in /o when we're in the middle of a BWL clearance? Just accept the fact that Luna wasn't happy when he found out and note the fact that you should speak to Comanders next time. A simple, "you're right Luna, sorry bout that, we'll do it next time" would more than suffice - instead you're trying to wind this up into something bigger than it is.
You should have spoken to the Commanders about it and Luna can't be expected to heal and read your /o during a boss fight. Remember that we were doing Razegore/Vael whilst this went on so weren't exactly paying much attention to your chat as we were sort of pre-occupied with our own little BWL raid.

TL.

Nefrion · August 25, 2006, 12:17:16 PM

Soz about this... Im just getting fed up with just accepting everything. You try to do the best for the raid group but sometimes it just feels like banging your head against the wall.

TeaLeaf · August 25, 2006, 12:20:42 PM

Welcome to the club, we feel exactly the same way as you do sometimes, but we pull together, work harder and make it happen. The same thing will happen here. We *will* pull together, and it *will* happen for RG2.

TL.

lunares · August 25, 2006, 04:06:44 PM

Quote from: Nefrion;145796Soz about this... Im just getting fed up with just accepting everything. You try to do the best for the raid group but sometimes it just feels like banging your head against the wall.

Nefrion thats how i feel most of the time lately. Whatever you do you get complaints (yes you cant please all ppl) but you think thats fun? And about Rg 2 attendance this mught not be my place to say so but your attendance is way better then RG1.

Lunares

Nefrion · August 25, 2006, 05:14:12 PM

Quote from: lunares;145864Nefrion thats how i feel most of the time lately. Whatever you do you get complaints (yes you cant please all ppl) but you think thats fun? And about Rg 2 attendance this mught not be my place to say so but your attendance is way better then RG1.

Lunares

Yeah I know m8. Im not complaining over the RG2 attendance. I think its great actually