Atiesh, Staff of the guardian

[Bastet]

Also before it becomes a problem, what how do we want to do the splinters of the staff? officer appointed wont work since half the officers want it, but i dont know a good idea neither.

[Padding]

I will stick to my opionion since i already saw too much legendary stuff go out of the guild
 
Legendary only goes to people we trust 100% and that means officers first and other people after.
 
Whoever gets it among the officers, should be discussed among the required classes and determined on who will actually put in the work to get it, and what classes that can actually benefit the most for it. Then you can work it out among yourselves and find a solution

[Bastet]

mesa think we should get a proposed system decided upon tomorrow, so if we could meet up a good 30m before the raid.

[lunares]

Saying be there 30 min before the raid normally doesnt work to good. Due to ppl late or having Rl things. This is to late for now but we should make like sugested in the long padding post thread a day where no 40 man is to discuss.
 
On Topic: Will try to be there but if works takes longer i cannot make it.
 
Lunares

[Vargen]

Anyways there is allways a possibility a splinter will drop of a boss. So if we are going to try them on a regular basis, we should decide really soon.

[Padding]

1. Decide if its Officers priority first or not
 
2. If yes, Officers decides who will go for the weapon first (TL, Kreuz, Vargen, Lunares). They above persons will sit down in room, and dont leave it until they decide whoever gets it first.
 
3. If no, then decide on a system for all possible users of the staff who goes for it first. Either rolling for it, or officers decide which non-officer gets it
 
4. Shut up a about the staff already and gib phat paladin loot okthxbye

[Bastet]

such a shame you wouldnt know phat loot even if it hit you over the head :tongue:

[Padding]

I guess you havent seen my corpus... i know PHAT when i see it :happy:

[TeaLeaf]

Ok, so here's an overly complicated solution to a really simple problem:

Option 1

Issue a vote to RG1 members.  
Make it a proportional representation vote - ie let them pick 5 people (in order of 1st choice, 2nd choice, 3rd choice etc) whom they believe should get the staff.  
Add up the vote points (5 for first, 4 for 2nd, 3 for 3rd, 2 for 4th and 1 for 5th) to see who is top.  
Winner takes all.

This ensures all members have a say and cannot complain.
Downside:  we have no bloody idea who will get the item.

Option 2:

Ask the members if it should got to Officers first to protect the Guild.

If they agree we sort it out amongst ourselves.
If they disagree then we start over with a new system.

Downside: we can really **** people off by ruling them out early on.

Option 3 (a variation on Option 1)

Issue a vote to RG1 members to ask which class should get the splinters.
Issue a vote to each class for them to select the priority list for their own class - who they think shoudl get the staff in their class
Make both votes proportional representation votes - ie let them pick 4/5 people (in order of 1st choice, 2nd choice, 3rd choice etc) whom they believe should get the staff.  
Add up the vote points (5 for first, 4 for 2nd, 3 for 3rd, 2 for 4th and 1 for 5th) to see who is top.  
The first vote to decide which class should get it.  The second vote (by members of a class) decides which person shoudl get it.
Vote 2 shoudl precede vote 1.
Winner takes all.

This ensures all members have a say and cannot complain.
Downside:  we have no bloody idea who will get the item.

Whatever we decide, I believe we shoudl issue an accompanying statement to let members know how long it will take for a single member to get the staff.  Like the Sceptre Q this will put many people off.

TL.

[TeaLeaf]

Atiesh, Staff of the Guardian
This Legendary staff is available to Druids, Mages, warlocks & Priests.

The quest involves collecting 40 splinters from Naxxramas to enable you to create a 'frame for the staff.  The frame then enables you to start a quest for the remainder of the staff materials and to ultimately gain the Legendary class item.  The stats on these staves are truly awesome and include not just personal stats buffs but also group 'auras' from which many more will benefit.  The impact of this staff in the Guild will therefore be a considerable one.

The quest for the staff is a long one and assuming that only one person is collecting the splinters and assuming that the person has 100% attendance and assuming that we are clearing Naxxramus within a week the Field Marshalls estimate that it would take about 4 months to collect sufficient BOP splinters to create a a single frame.  

With this in mind we need to think carefully about whom we allow to collect these splinters.  We would therefore like to pose a question to Silver Oak Guardian members:

Q: Should such a Legendary staff be allocated by Field Marshalls to a member  whom they see most fit to receive the first 40 splinters? (ie did you want the Field Marshalls to decide who should be the one to get the splinters).   Alternatively, did you want a vote from members to see who should get the staff?

Please think about this carefully as we do not wish to see any mroe legendary items leave the Guild.  If in doubt as to how important these items are then please refer to the below pictures.