Battle Plan part 3: To TBC-Raids and beyond!

[Gallahan]

Maybe make the weekend raid start around 13.00 for those that use the 12h system that would be 01.00 pm i think.

then raid for 4-5 hours and be done around dinner time.

that leaves only 2 night raids a week, would be real nice.

[Moonwind]

Nice raid times would be from say 8 GT till 11 GT? By the sounds of it this would fit more time zones :g:

Now back to bobs point

I agree that applications should be altered in some respects, I've been the 'sponser' for someone who i don't even know or recognise. We should make sure that people joining the guild are close friends to people in the guild (therefore as Bob said building a stronger community) :woot2:

However, i dont think we should COMPLETELY close applications, i think keeping applications open but being more selective (alot more selective) over who is joining the guild.

Maybe when someone has been selected an officer should talk to the person to check they are as their application states (i know some of my former guilds like eureka do this) and when they are an initiate they should be constantly watched to check they fit into the SoG community and help to increase the effectiveness of the raid group, tbh i've never really seen an initiate get watched :roflmao:

Hope this was good enough feedback bob :boxing:

Moony

[Armitage]

may be a vote for start times,
 
See if we could run a later starting one as well as the usal start time:)

[Gorion]

1st, everything what bob said is true,

2nd, ime taking a break from raiding that could last forever, reason is, over the last 1.5+ yrs ive been sleeping less than 5hrs when we raid, work performace went down, ive risked my job countless times and its still on the line even now. not to mention racing home from work and "eating" in 1-2min

i know its like a dagger in the back, but ask the sog's that barely sleep when we raid, ie: luna and bastet and dajo, and maybe even more...

i would only be interested in friday night, saturday after 1pm and sunday upto 10pm (all server time)

or, start the raids before, like 6.30 till 10 ish (which prolly aint possible, ie: gmt time zone)

bdw, when ille have tbc, ime not planning on rushing it. gonna take it slow and easy

[Lucian]

My ideal day times: Friday night / Saturday afternoon evening / Sunday afternoon evening.
 
But a vote is I think the best option. That and plenty of variety - why not have 4 raiding slots (Tuesday/Thursday/Friday/Sunday) and have people commit to three of the four, or two of the four?
 
Its a workable system imho, provided that attendance is VERY carefully monitored to maintain standards. It might need someone to sit down with a register and tick the name of the players who turn up. But that way everyone should be happy.
 
EDIT: I'm with Gorion - I'm not going to rush my levelling to 70, I want to enjoy the experience and sample as much as possible.  Would it be possible to set a guild deadline for raiding? Ie. something along the lines of only raiders lvl 68+ will considered, on Feb 21st?

[Luminance]

Great plans there bastet (and the rest of the marshals).

Edit:

The end time of  11 to 11.30 is more important then the begin time of 19(:15)
Though keep in mind if ur gonna make it 20:15 then we might face simmilair problems as we did that we dont start before 20:45 leaving only 3 hours for raiding.

I kinda like the idea of a sunday afternoon raid but i don't think its practical. Since there will be nuff people doing something else (family visits, soccer, or sleeping (off the alcohol ^^)

Finally to come back to what bob said about the sponsoring, i fully agree with him, we have enough good members, and people should only sponsor if they "know" the person well IG/IRL.

[Nefertem]

@ Sheepy: Im kinda with you on that.. Due to some internet problems I didn't manage to get my mage to lvl 60 as I hoped for, so I will be leveling Nefertem first, but might want to change at some point..

@ Lucian & Gorion: Same here.. I want to experience the new content of the game, and don't feel like rushing through to lvl 70, so Id like to know aswell if there is some kind of deadline or a date set for raiding yet?

The Raidingdays and times doesn't really matter that much for me as I most likely can do all nights (although Id rather not see the raid last till 1am on weekdays)

[sheepy]

I would personally like to see a compromise between the raid times suggested. say 19:30 or 19:45 server time?

I like some others here, have to rush home from work, have about 10 mins to eat and b with the family b4 having to get on for about 19:00 to do any prep needed for raids.

[Bastet]

The times are set as they are because we have to set something, and this works, we cant start before due to UK, or after due to ppl that are +2, and neither groups is large enough to support a full raid group on thier own. As much as id like to poll for times i allready know what its gonne be, so many options and votes all over the place that we end up beeing unable to do anything. Now personably, i wouldnt mind starting a tad later, if everyone shows up on time and is at the door of said instance.
The end time of 11 to 11.30 will probably not change though, due to the fact that ppl need some sleep.

[Sheperdbook]

Wise words Bastet.

Though I do think the weekend afternoon raid is an idea that should be followed up. It is much easier to tailor one's week to, also if necessary I'm sure many peeps could continue into the evening. This would promote guild advancement in the new instances.

Mid-week raiding is annoying for many ppl who tend to have only just got home from work.

I've been thinking for some time about raiding again, but I want to see that there is a system that I can commit to in the long run before I really make a decision.

I think that quite a few ppl will leave when we start raiding again as there'll be alot of wiping and few loot rewards (a hard earned reward though is much more to savour). So I wouldn't be too bothered about closing applications especially as this is the time when we'll bump into new ppl whilst leveling up.



Shep

[Jamoe]

I'm in the same boat as a few others here, I get home around 6pm and have to start Tea and do a few chores. I struggle to get on much befor 7/7:30 (8:30 server time). I would other wise be happy to commit the time.

It may be that raiding just isn't for me, but it's a shame I have to miss out on such a large part of end game. Maybe I'll just play on an adhoc basis, if theres a space and im free ill happily put my name forward, won't have the dkp to get any nice items but at least I'll see the insides of these places.

[sheepy]

jamoe, regarding tea, 1 word "sandwich"

regarding the chores. leave them, you can do them all on a non raiding day

[Jamoe]

jamoe, regarding tea, 1 word "sandwich"

regarding the chores. leave them, you can do them all on a non raiding day

1 word - SWMBO

[Bastet]

Though I do think the weekend afternoon raid is an idea that should be followed up. It is much easier to tailor one's week to, also if necessary I'm sure many peeps could continue into the evening. This would promote guild advancement in the new instances.

Same problem really, ppl have lunch between 11am-2pm and dinner between 5pm-7pm, dont leave to much room to work with since ppl normaly dont log on straight after and stay till right upto dinner due to having to cook/set table/clean table.
 
The idea's are nice, but i am really not sure how it would go in practice.

[Nefertem]

1 word - SWMBO

Is that a word? :g: