we shamans hate patch 2.1

Started by Arcticfire, April 18, 2007, 09:51:48 AM

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Arcticfire

Shaman
  • "Earth Elemental Totem": This pet will now come into the game with full health, including that gained from a percentage of its master's stamina.
  • "Earth Shield": Adjusted the tooltip to indicate this ability works against all types of attacks, not just melee. This ability will also now properly trigger only from taking direct damage effects.
  • "Elemental Focus": This talent now reduces the cost of the next damage spell by 60%. It will also now trigger from bonus spells cast by "Lightning Overload".
  • "Eye of the Storm" (Elemental): Clarified the tooltip on this talent to indicate it only works with Shaman spells.
  • "Fire Elemental Totem": This pet will now come into the game with full health and mana, including that gained from a percentage of its master's stamina and intellect. It will also now properly get increased stamina from a percentage of its master's stamina.
  • "Flametongue Weapon": This effect will no longer trigger while you are disarmed.
  • "Frostbrand Weapon": Rank 6 now properly receives increased effect from spell damage bonuses.
  • "Healing Focus": The tooltip has been adjusted to indicate it only works with Shaman spells. e.g.: Does not work with "Gift of the Naaru".
  • "Heroism": Training cost increased to match the cost of "Bloodlust".
  • "Lightning Shield": Ranks 8 and 9 of this spell now trigger correctly while mounted.
  • "Magma Totem": This totem will now correctly do damage on its 10th tick, right before despawning.
  • "Mana Spring Totem": Duration increased to 2 minutes.
  • "Mana Tide Totem": This totem will no longer sometimes grant mana after it has been destroyed. It will also consistently grant mana 4 times instead of sometimes 3 and sometimes 5.
  • "Healing Stream Totem": Duration increased to 2 minutes.
  • "Mental Quickness": This talent now correctly reduces the cost of "Purge", "Flame Shock", "Frost Shock", "Earth Shock", "Bloodlust", "Heroism", "Lightning Shield", "Cure Poison", and "Cure Disease".
  • "Nature's Guardian" (Restoration): Some spells and abilities did not trigger this talent. That has been fixed.
  • "Restorative Totems" (Restoration): This talent no longer gives a bonus to a variety of jewelcrafting items.
  • "Shadowguard": The rank 7 tooltip is now consistent with all other ranks of "Shadowguard".
  • Trainer Animations: All new Shaman abilities will now correctly play the training animation when learned.
  • "Water Shield": When a Shaman with this spell active is afflicted with "Cyclone", the charge burned will now grant mana.
  • "Windfury Weapon": Mixing two different ranks of "Windfury Weapon" while dual-wielding will no longer increase the number of "Windfury Weapon" procs.
Loads of good things except the last 1 :(

Nefertem

Took them long enough :narnar:

Otherwise it looks ok :)
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Livtraser - lvl 80 noom mage, Aszune
Legba - lvl 71 Nelf rogue, Aszune
Shegoat (formerly Pentesil
éa) - lvl 80 draenei shaman, Aszune
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Carr0t

Last one was a bug right from the start. The rest of it is all good, and that is fixing something that should never have worked in the first place. This from someone who's been playing an enhancement Shammy since I started playing. I've got no problem with it.
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Mal: Define interesting...
Wash: Oh god, oh god, we\'re all going to die?

JanuZ

You are complaining because they fix a bug?

They changed my holy talent from giving 100% mana back to 50% mana back when my heals crit

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Luminance

Quote from: Drazila;185736You are complaining because they fix a bug?

They changed my holy talent from giving 100% mana back to 50% mana back when my heals crit

hehe, JUSTICE :P:P:P

Also known as Lycan Lumi - On Aszune known as: Luminescence lvl 80 shammy
Best knife, double kill:
-=[dMw]=-Lumi|T.Wolve killed -=[dMw]=-Sithy with knife.
-=[dMw]=-Lumi|T.Wolve killed -=[dMw]=-R@ng3R with knife.

Bastet

Quote from: Luminance;185871hehe, JUSTICE :P:P:P

Dont behave so childish :sideways: Its never fun when they go after a certain class hard w/ the nerfs/tweaks and it really doesnt help if ppl start yelling that stuff arround.
 
And Teni, i recon it gets changed sooner or later again, just look at the druid tweaks. If anything it shows blizzard is poor at balancing, and that we are all paying for a public beta patch :eyebrow:
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Sokhar lv 80 (H/M) Warrior, Sokhár lv 80 (H/M) Death Knight, Beset lv 70 (NE/F) Druid, Bastet lv 70 (NE/F) Rogue, Mentu lv 70 (Dr/M) Shaman
-=[dMw]=-Bastet (CSS) / -=[dMw]=-Niwa (BF2) / -=dMw=- Sokhar (BF2142)
-=[dMw]=- MVP Award Holder (June 2006) Winning team -=[dMw]=- Christmas Crunch (2008)

Carr0t

Such is the nature of the game, unfortunately. The only way to balance it perfectly would be to only have 1 class. it's a rock-paper-scissors thing.
[imga=right]http://77.108.129.49/fahtags/ms10.jpg[/imga]Wash: This is going to get pretty interesting.
Mal: Define interesting...
Wash: Oh god, oh god, we\'re all going to die?

Bastet

Maybe so, but a lot of this stuff there changing now has been in the game for a very long time. Ppl have to relearn there whole class at points.
Aszune (Alliance):
Sokhar lv 80 (H/M) Warrior, Sokhár lv 80 (H/M) Death Knight, Beset lv 70 (NE/F) Druid, Bastet lv 70 (NE/F) Rogue, Mentu lv 70 (Dr/M) Shaman
-=[dMw]=-Bastet (CSS) / -=[dMw]=-Niwa (BF2) / -=dMw=- Sokhar (BF2142)
-=[dMw]=- MVP Award Holder (June 2006) Winning team -=[dMw]=- Christmas Crunch (2008)

Luminance

Quote from: Bastet;185879Dont behave so childish :sideways: Its never fun when they go after a certain class hard w/ the nerfs/tweaks and it really doesnt help if ppl start yelling that stuff arround.

Hey shamans are suposed to be hating paladins, its in theire nature! atleast till TBC came, but stil i played 100X more wow then wow:TBC ;) and was a shammy for more then half the time i played, so i still think like a oldschool shammy :D

Also known as Lycan Lumi - On Aszune known as: Luminescence lvl 80 shammy
Best knife, double kill:
-=[dMw]=-Lumi|T.Wolve killed -=[dMw]=-Sithy with knife.
-=[dMw]=-Lumi|T.Wolve killed -=[dMw]=-R@ng3R with knife.

DarkAngel

Seems that pallys can no longer tank now tho. As you used to give mana back to them when you healed but this will only be so when you actually heal them up not when they are at 100%...


Bastet

it will not be noticed at all that much if PTR reports are anything to go by.
Aszune (Alliance):
Sokhar lv 80 (H/M) Warrior, Sokhár lv 80 (H/M) Death Knight, Beset lv 70 (NE/F) Druid, Bastet lv 70 (NE/F) Rogue, Mentu lv 70 (Dr/M) Shaman
-=[dMw]=-Bastet (CSS) / -=[dMw]=-Niwa (BF2) / -=dMw=- Sokhar (BF2142)
-=[dMw]=- MVP Award Holder (June 2006) Winning team -=[dMw]=- Christmas Crunch (2008)

sitha

#11
Testing indicates anything from 10% to 20%+ dps nerf for enhancement shamans. This "bug" was what made enhancement a viable raid dps spec. As it is now I'm just barely able to compete with equally geared rogues, after the patch I will have no chance at all. And yes I think enhancement should do pretty close to equal damage as rogues, when you spec enhance you can't really do anything else.

As for elemental they took a huge hit to their sustainability.

I started levling my pally as soon as I read those patch notes. Figured I would try tanking for once. I'm prolly just setting myself up for large amount of frustration though, seeing how Blizz still keeps trying to force healer hybrids into pure healers.

Anyways hi all, long time no see. How are you all?:)

Bob

Quote from: sitha;186833Anyways hi all, long time no see. How are you all?:)
Just fine thankyouverymuch Sitha :D
Long time no see...

So, how about doing some leveling on Sitha or Silverthorn anytime soon :flirty:
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sitha

Quote from: Bob;186847Just fine thankyouverymuch Sitha :D
Long time no see...

So, how about doing some leveling on Sitha or Silverthorn anytime soon :flirty:

Kinda busy atm on Darkspear I'm afraid. They somehow tricked me into being GM for this "casual raiding guild" that we started with 4-5 rl friends. We are on our third week in Karazhan now. Got Attumen, Moroes, Big Bad Wolf and Curator down on our first week :).

But I do miss Aszune and SoG, I have some of my best WoW memories from playing with you guys :)

TeaLeaf

Quote from: sitha;186833seeing how Blizz still keeps trying to force healer hybrids into pure healers.
....and seeing how Blizz still keeps trying to force pure healers totally out of the game by making hybrid healers better than the pure healers.....

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