Karazhan test run

Bastet · May 13, 2007, 09:41:56 AM

In response to Teni / Gorion:

Dajo and Umbra OT mostly in kara, like 95% of the time. Ideal for a OT slot in Kara are druids/paladins though, since they can heal on several fights. Teni is right that even on full dps they get hopelessly outclassed by mages and other DPS, Feral dps vs fury warrior is a close run, but both are normaly brought for the utility (Healing/OTing/DPS as required) more then for actual dps. And for the MT slot you wish to have a Prot warr, which can do his own shout. Yes druid/paladin works, but are better for OTing.

Again blizzard fails at making offspecs viable, but instead of druids and priests, this time its dps warr/pala. This doesnt mean it wont work, but that the raid needs to put some more time in effort into MAKING it work.

If you are without prot warr a good equiped druid tank would work also, but the healers need to be more alert to the differences between the mechanics, same with fury warrior and such.

TeaLeaf · May 13, 2007, 12:41:59 PM

Oh and I've respecced my priest to holy/disc now.

TL.

Bob · May 13, 2007, 06:49:17 PM

Good post in the announcement section about the test run Tenilia :thumbsup2:

About the sign-up system - it should work AFAIK, so if you feel for it, just add this link to your post and get people signed up there.
That link is also available from the main raiding forum I think.

Lucian · May 13, 2007, 07:57:23 PM

As an extra idea: I'm willing to lead a heroic instance group if too many sign up. I've completed Underbog heroic before, although we would need some awesome dps in there, it should be doable.

JanuZ · May 13, 2007, 08:59:56 PM

The main problem with that is that there will mostly just be DPS in the queue, seeing as we need almost all attuned tanks and healers.

JanuZ · May 13, 2007, 09:06:46 PM

Well reason i didn't use the signup site is because i can't create raids there yet and it doesn't allow for characters to be above lvl60 at the moment(no one can sign up to your raid now because a character can't be high enough level)

Lucian · May 13, 2007, 09:43:28 PM

True.

Well it was a suggestion. I'll work on getting Bobby levelled up a bit more.

Gorion · May 13, 2007, 09:57:03 PM

Quote from: Drazila;189407Well reason i didn't use the signup site is because i can't create raids there yet and it doesn't allow for characters to be above lvl60 at the moment(no one can sign up to your raid now because a character can't be high enough level)

tan should be working on it afaik

Lucian · May 13, 2007, 10:04:08 PM

Teni - a useful tool in looking at current figures for all players.

http://armory.mmo-champion.com/guildstats_out/aszune-silver-oak-guardians-60.html

JanuZ · May 14, 2007, 12:21:12 AM

Well the problem with that is that people often logg of not in there raiding equipemnt. Currently it shows my Healing Gear but it almost always shows my PvP Gear. It does help for most DPS classes though seeing as they don't have diffrent gear to equip based on what they are doing.

If everyone that is currently attuned would sign up the group would most likly be

Tanks: Gorion and Shadowspell( Nefertem instead of 1 if he has his computer back, not sure wich)
Healers: Marduk, Soulangel and Me( Spiritus might come instead of a mage or a hunter)
Locks: Vanguish and Plight ( Othbarty at about the same stats)
Mage: Deloris, Lexander ( Nobekpl could also be a good choice)
Hunter: Theoline ( Lucian at about the same stats though if Adularena could attend he might get this spot)

Bob · May 14, 2007, 11:22:50 AM

A small comment on the group setup there: I've been in a couple of runs with Deloris and Plight (both of 'em together - always), and they are truly falling behind on DPS (a couple of times when I've been going cat, I've easily out-DPSed 'em both...). So for the lock spot, I'd take Oth anytime over Plight - for the mage, I know nothing about Nobekpl, but since he just joined the guild, it would be fair that it goes to Deloris I guess.

Gorion · May 14, 2007, 07:30:36 PM

re tanks, ille apply for OT, and not MT

i should handle the horse easy, since its just basic melee, still have my life giving gem, so in case of need thats an extra 1.5k, and ime calculating that with gotw and fort plus the should, i should reach 15.5-16k easy

TeaLeaf · May 14, 2007, 08:57:17 PM

Jorgen is prot spec and got fairly decent gear. Midnight hits him for about 3k when he OTs him.

TL.

JanuZ · May 14, 2007, 11:13:40 PM

Gorion the problem is that Attument is disarmable and does 60% less damage if a warrior tanks him. If he is tanked by a warrior he does the same Melee damage as the horse though you get the occassional 4k cleave. The plan was that you offtank but you have to maintank the boss if we don't have another warrior. And with demoralizing shout and Curse of weakness he should be at 650 lower AP and seeing as there is no spell damge you should both have BoL and Amplify magic.

If we take this link as an example http://bosskillers.com/cgi-bin/bbguild/index.cgi?action=view_guide&guide_id=23&sid=k2LdDYhqIc
They say 11k health and 460defence minimum wich you should easily be 3k over when fully buffed.

I really don't have any doubt you can tank Attunement. We might be able to change when he mounts but his damage doesn't change then and i think that would just be confusing. Lastly i want to point out that the second boss we are going for does almost twice the melee damage + a constant 150tick AoE + Spells.

Bastet · May 15, 2007, 04:51:39 PM

Any decent equiped tank can tank everything in Karazhan, we done full clears on warrior, druid and paladin MTing now. I dont suppose you have a prot pala or feral druid availible? The ability to switch to healing for maiden, maybe opera, curator and prince can be quite a live saver over several whipes.

Edit: Teni, dont do the Random boss, hes NOT worth it, youll just end up wasting a hour and DEing a worthless epic.