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Gone_Away

#45
February 18, 2008, 11:27:15 AM

delanvital

#46
February 18, 2008, 12:50:21 PM
Quote from: Ninja_Freak;222779is the end of HD DVD nigh?
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7250068.stm

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T-Bag

#47
February 18, 2008, 05:12:07 PM
They took too long about it. The PS3 was the key which go people buying HD without worrying if their several hundered pound player would become scrap in a few months time. The only way they could have won is by getting backing from all the studios and a load of exclusive deals.
Since neither side had exclusivity from the start, it went on with the PS3 slowly dominating the market.
Now if Xbox 360's came with HD-DVD we could well have been seeing the reverse (assuming no increase in price/availability issues - There are 2 very unlikely assumptions)
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GhostMjr

#48
February 20, 2008, 06:34:10 PM
Quote from: T-Bag;222825They took too long about it. The PS3 was the key which go people buying HD without worrying if their several hundered pound player would become scrap in a few months time. The only way they could have won is by getting backing from all the studios and a load of exclusive deals.
Since neither side had exclusivity from the start, it went on with the PS3 slowly dominating the market.
Now if Xbox 360's came with HD-DVD we could well have been seeing the reverse (assuming no increase in price/availability issues - There are 2 very unlikely assumptions)


I think the xbox didn't want to go the hddvd route to begin with as they did  seem to rush  the release of the xbox 360 to beat the ps3 and so then added hddvd as an added extra, which was looking back a good strategy. Talking of the pc market on the other hand I will still buy a combi drive when it comes to crunch time as I can then choose the cheapest releases but i suppose one format will fall at some point. Also this is the same for rewritable media as one format could be cheaper to clear stocks than another.

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T-Bag

#49
February 20, 2008, 09:13:02 PM
Quote from: GhostMjr;223046I think the xbox didn't want to go the hddvd route to begin with as they did  seem to rush  the release of the xbox 360 to beat the ps3 and so then added hddvd as an added extra, which was looking back a good strategy. Talking of the pc market on the other hand I will still buy a combi drive when it comes to crunch time as I can then choose the cheapest releases but i suppose one format will fall at some point. Also this is the same for rewritable media as one format could be cheaper to clear stocks than another.

I imagine HD DVD will hang around for quite a long time as a rewriteable media, alot of factories are setup to create them, or can be more easily converted that to Blu-ray. They can have a few years of pumping out cheap disks to cover the conversion cost of the factory.
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delanvital

#50
February 21, 2008, 05:26:41 PM
Quote from: T-Bag;223078I imagine HD DVD will hang around for quite a long time as a rewriteable media, alot of factories are setup to create them, or can be more easily converted that to Blu-ray. They can have a few years of pumping out cheap disks to cover the conversion cost of the factory.

It seems that Microsoft was quick at turning the Xbox 360 rudder:

http://www.smarthouse.com.au/Gaming/Console/J7L7H2R4?page=2

Jabbs

#51
February 22, 2008, 06:41:59 AM
I'm with the watch and wait crowd (money, or lack of it does that) :eyebrow:

Blu Ray does seem like the one to go for but we've been in positions like this before huh? Tapes, Vinyl, CD's, Video blah blah....

I'd be interested in the expected life-span of a technology such as this.  I'm guessing a few years before the next big thing comes along?
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DuVeL

#52
February 22, 2008, 07:10:45 AM
Quote from: Jabbs;223260I'm with the watch and wait crowd (money, or lack of it does that) :eyebrow:
 
Blu Ray does seem like the one to go for but we've been in positions like this before huh? Tapes, Vinyl, CD's, Video blah blah....
 
I'd be interested in the expected life-span of a technology such as this. I'm guessing a few years before the next big thing comes along?

I reckon they allready have the next thing ready.
2-3 years or such...
I'm also in the waiting crowd...
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Carr0t

#53
February 22, 2008, 10:05:08 AM
For my money the 'next big thing' is digital downloads rather than physical media. You can already download rental HD quality movies with 5.1 sound over XBox Live. About 7GB for a movie, which lasts for a week (IIRC) before the DRM expires. Smaller than the stuff on a Blu-Ray or HD-DVD disk I assume because the 360 has enough power to decompress a compressed stream instead of streaming it raw. A standard def movie rental from there (DVD quality) is only 1.5GB.
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spudgun55

#54
February 22, 2008, 11:13:34 AM
just remember that its all down to money, so long as we have to buy a disk and a player to play it on that will be the way manufactures will want , so we spend lots of monies, on the other hand could the films industry look at a ipod type solution, a player that sits under your tv and you then download movies in hd , ooh wait a minute thats sky, and how much do they charge for the hd box plus monthly and film payments!!!.
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Armitage

#55
February 22, 2008, 01:13:01 PM
It's great downloading a 7gb HD film until your ISP shuts you down for breaking the T&C, under there "reasonable use policy":sideways:

delanvital

#56
February 22, 2008, 03:17:41 PM
Quote from: Armitage;223304It's great downloading a 7gb HD film until your ISP shuts you down for breaking the T&C, under there "reasonable use policy":sideways:

Good point. With increased use for the bandwidth the ISPs better get used to users pulling loads of data.

Jabbs

#57
February 22, 2008, 05:49:36 PM
Quote from: delanvital;223319Good point. With increased use for the bandwidth the ISPs better get used to users pulling loads of data.

Virgin are talking of 50Mb broadband (soon).  I guess it wont be long until 100Mb (LAN speeds).  Then what? 200Mb? 1Gb?  At those speeds you could easily save movies to HDD.  As already mentioned the main problem is the ISP's getting all screwed up as soon as you download more than a 1GB (or whatever)

There certainly needs to be some major changes in broadband and 'over usage' before it becomes a 'medium' to contend with Blu Ray, DVD etc.
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Whitey

#58
February 25, 2008, 02:20:48 PM
Microsoft have now axed the HD-DVD drive as well http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/02/25/ms_axes_xbox_360_hd_dvd/

I imagine Sony are quite happy at actually winning a format war.
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