Choke/Lag

[Whitey]

I know it's early days but just wanted to let you know we are getting lag on Boomer and Meathook.  The choke is about the same level as before the move.

[Gandalf]

ok, I need traces to see where it's occuring. There shouldn't be any issues with any loss or choke here and the new company have assured me that any issues will be dealt with. However I need some evidence of this!

Also, pings are given lowest priority on the core routers, so don't be surprised if you get some spikes here.

I'm currently running a trace to ba3 and it's looking great so far.

[Anonymous]

I've just run a trace to BA3 and everything from Brighstar in is fine. I am seeing some loss and highish pings in the BY (Virgin) router and in *.c4l.co.uk

[Gandalf]

looks ok here, that 100% packet loss is most likely to be the router configured to drop ping requests. This is getting to be more common unfortunately.

The high points appear to be on the c4l which I believe is connections for london. I'll speak with them tomorrow to see if there is any issues.

[Whitey]

We only got the problem when the server had a lot of people on (> 14). We had a number of long lag spikes during Italy.  I never got a traceroute tonight but will be sure to capture it next time.  
Kreg did send me this:

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C:\Documents and Settings\Admin>tracert 77.108.129.46
 
Sporer rute til dsl-77-108-129-46.brightstar-associates.co.uk [77.108.129.46]
over et maksimum af 30 hop:
 
  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.1
  2    11 ms    17 ms    15 ms  192.168.0.1
  3    12 ms    45 ms    28 ms  lo1.abnxx12.ip.tele.dk [80.166.138.153]
  4    14 ms     8 ms    10 ms  ge1-0-40.1000M.abnxg5.ip.tele.dk [83.88.9.2]
  5    12 ms    14 ms    11 ms  pos6-0.2488M.abnxg2.ip.tele.dk [83.88.15.70]
  6    28 ms    13 ms    12 ms  so-1-1-0.2488M.hcnxu1.ip.tele.dk [83.88.3.37]
  7    34 ms    24 ms    32 ms  so-0-2-0.2488M.albnxu1.ip.tele.dk [83.88.12.150]
 
  8    12 ms    17 ms    13 ms  pos0-0.2488M.albnxg7.ip.tele.dk [83.88.12.78]
  9    13 ms    15 ms    16 ms  peer.ge5-3.1000M.0xc3d76d66.albnxg7.peer.tele.dk
 [195.215.109.102]
 10    47 ms    47 ms    47 ms  so-5-1-0.lon11.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.81.146]
 11   101 ms   201 ms   200 ms  connect4london-gw1.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.78.66
]
 12    46 ms    67 ms    47 ms  bgp.brightstar-associates.co.uk.c4l [84.45.104.1
78]
 13    54 ms    46 ms    46 ms  core.router.brightstar-associates.co.uk [77.108.
128.2]
 14    48 ms    90 ms    84 ms  dsl-77-108-129-46.brightstar-associates.co.uk [7
7.108.129.46]
***************

[TeaLeaf]

Bastet reporterd a big improvement in ping and no loss/choke when he tried it last night.  Not sure how many people were on the server at the time though.

TL.

[TeaLeaf]

Pardon me for adding an after thought:

Imo choke is nothing to do with your net connection quality and more about your rate settings.  You can remove 100% of choke by properly setting your rate, cl_cmdrate etc commands.

Loss & Ping are more the quality of connection issues.  I know this is not 100% perfect for absolutely all circumstances, but that's always the way I viewed it.

TL.

[Dr Sadako]

I don't have any plot to present either. Yesterday I switched from MH to Boomer and on Boomer we were 4 players and had no choke or lag. I used HLSW to tell people on MH to move over. Already when 6-7 players were on Boomer the choke started and was real bad.

[Anonymous]

I'm having a look at BA3 just now. I think there may be two issues; one is that the screen in RDP keeps lagging now and again which sounds like a connectivity issue which I'll monitor, the second is that the FTP server is constantly running at 25% CPU utilisation because it is trying to bind to the old IP address and it won't let me in to change it - I'm reading through docs at present to see where info is stored and I'll change it manually.

I'll keep you posted.

[Anonymous]

OK, fixed the FTP server so it is now binding to 77.108.129.48 (BA3 nic3)

[Penfold]

Mu understanding of this thread is running at about 15% so I'll leave it to you guys but again just want to add my thanks for all the work you're putting in.

PEN

[Gandalf]

the firewall lan links just went down/up again several times so it looks like there is a problem with the firewall that has only just emerged. I've put in a support call with sonicwall and am awaiting to hear from them.

[Gandalf]

I've just set the links to force 100 FD as requested by sonicwall. will monitor.

[Bastet]

Bastet reporterd a big improvement in ping and no loss/choke when he tried it last night. Not sure how many people were on the server at the time though.
 
TL.

5-6 ppl where on at the time, was some good games, untill i lose routing due to a problem on my ISP's end.

[Whitey]

We're still getting lag spikes on Boomer. heres a trace from my PC

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C:\Documents and Settings\Stephen>tracert 77.108.129.46

Tracing route to dsl-77-108-129-46.brightstar-associates.co.uk [77.108.129.46]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  www.routerlogin.com [192.168.0.1]
  2    46 ms    46 ms    44 ms  217.32.0.186
  3   129 ms    46 ms    46 ms  217.32.0.161
  4   108 ms   153 ms   145 ms  217.41.174.21
  5   193 ms   116 ms   107 ms  217.41.174.65
  6   205 ms   258 ms    80 ms  217.41.174.130
  7    46 ms    46 ms     *     217.41.174.42
  8   245 ms   247 ms   291 ms  217.47.207.178
  9    45 ms    46 ms    46 ms  core1-pos15-1.edinburgh.ukcore.bt.net [62.6.199.
205]
 10    52 ms    52 ms    52 ms  core1-pos6-1.birmingham.ukcore.bt.net [62.6.201.
21]
 11   410 ms   300 ms   347 ms  core1-pos0-0-0-9.ilford.ukcore.bt.net [62.6.201.
105]
 12    57 ms    59 ms    58 ms  core2-pos7-3.ilford.ukcore.bt.net [62.6.201.106]

 13     *      263 ms   350 ms  core2-pos9-0-0.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net [62.6.201
.122]
 14    81 ms    56 ms     *     194.74.65.58
 15   279 ms   246 ms   300 ms  bgp.brightstar-associates.co.uk.enta.net [87.127
.231.114]
 16    59 ms   138 ms    58 ms  core.router.brightstar-associates.co.uk [77.108.
128.2]
 17    59 ms    72 ms    59 ms  dsl-77-108-129-46.brightstar-associates.co.uk [7
7.108.129.46]

Trace complete.