Warrior Tanking guide w/ remaps

[Bastet]

http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=294459469&sid=1&pageNo=1
 
A warrior tanking for dummys guide that has some solid advice for older tanks too.

[TeaLeaf]

As a slight aside:

One of the best tanking guides you can get is the threat meter.  Watch your Threat Per Second figure.  If you're an MT and pulling only 600 TPS then expect to get overhauled by even the MS warrior.  If you can't pull 1k TPS then expect to get aggro pulled from you by rogues, hunters and all casters.  Use it to tell you how much threat you develop with your roation, use it to change and improve your rotation.  We just upped the TPS of one of our tanks by changing rotation and generated almost 65% more TPS.

TL.

[Bob]

Will have a look through it at a later point - seemed like a bit of a long read. Suppose some tips usable for tanking druid can be found in there as well?

[Bastet]

Druid tank is far eazyer on the buttons, only got 3 really, its keep maul lit at all times, mangle when off CD and fill the rest w/ lacerate. You can get upwards of 2,000 TPS that way, my personal best is 4,500 over 25 seconds by a long crit line. :norty:

[Gorion]

ime around 700-800, using every single skill i have avail, and an hs+devastate macro

[Nefertem]

I've been ready on this: http://www.evilempireguild.org/guides/after490.php

There you can also see which abilities makes the most threat (warriors ones anyways).. There you can see that Sunder Armor and Shield Slam tops the chart with 307 and 301, while devastate is at the bottom with 101 and various 'aoe' abilities such as cleave and shouts divide their threat over the targets affected..


Ill read up on the one you found Bastet.. Looks good

[Gorion]

ime actually thinking about needing more str since i have sta gems in every slot

[Bastet]

Stamina is really needed for fights later on in karazhan such as prince phase 2, and beyond there, gruul and maulgar can pump out some incredible burst dps

[Sandrion]

There you can see that Sunder Armor and Shield Slam tops the chart with 307 and 301, while devastate is at the bottom with 101

These are the static threat values associated with the abilities, don't forget devastate does some damage aswell, so will generate more threat then sunder (unless you're using a mining pick or something as a weapon :narnar:; ah the good old RG2 days were Keltor was naked tanking Onyxia trash with this mining pick).
 
But there is some good stuff on that site Nef :thumb: . The Stamina vs Avoidance discussion is a pretty interresting read.
 
On the Druid vs Warrior threat. Druid threat (even after the major TBC nerf) scales fairly well with AP / crit, since Druids are still largely 'threat through damage' tanks. A Warrior's threat however, doesn't really scale much with anything :sad: . Having a feral druid in the MT group for the +5% crit aura might help a bit, but beyond that I don't know how much you can do to improve it without nerfing your tanking stats.

[Gorion]

well, i dont have any idea how to up it past my 700-800.. ime constantly queing sunder, hs + devastate, and using every revenge, slam, bash available. so ime guessing its the gear thats the limit

[Nefertem]

well, i dont have any idea how to up it past my 700-800.. ime constantly queing sunder, hs + devastate, and using every revenge, slam, bash available. so ime guessing its the gear thats the limit

:withstupid:

[Bastet]

Yeh, warrior threat scaling isnt nearly as good as it should be. But going for str over stam aint it, you need all the stam you can get as tank

[Lucian]

Would changing the current group set up help? Gotta remember that Gorion has never had the change to work with a Shammy in his group etc. Would the totems help?

[Sandrion]

Would changing the current group set up help? Gotta remember that Gorion has never had the change to work with a Shammy in his group etc. Would the totems help?

Totems will help, but probably not too much. Windfury currently only procs of white damage and since you're spamming HS you'll never see it proc. The agility totem gives a bit of crit, but also dodge; so in boss fights it might help, since rage isn't a problem, on thrash you're probably better off without it. The strength totem may up your threat generation slightly, but again a Warrior's aggro generation doesn't scale very well.
 
You'll probably get the best results with a very fast weapon (just like [item]Alcor's Sunrazor[/item] was the best TPS tanking weapon in the old days). Then you can get some more Heroic Strikes of in a shorter period of time.

[Bastet]

Agree w/ sandrion, fast weapons are good for tanking warriors. For paladins it doesnt really matter as most thier threat comes from reflective dmg. Druids by nature dont need any special weapons, the best tanking staffs are also very good for tanking dmg.