Is this out of bounds or not?

[DuVeL]

Tonight at de_contra;

 
I think it's oob as you can see right towards T-spawn for quit a bit.
Is it allowed or not?

[Jamoe]

It's a tough one, but you can also see the T spawn from the middle (almost), plus its in the bomb site area so your still not leaving the objective.

Personally I think it would take so long to get up there its not really a big advantage.

[DuVeL]

It's a tough one, but you can also see the T spawn from the middle (almost), plus its in the bomb site area so your still not leaving the objective.
 
Personally I think it would take so long to get up there its not really a big advantage.

Actually, we were sneaking in on the left.
You are correct that they can also see up the middle bit but this one has no cover for T's there (the middle one has).
The sign for CT's is on the wall near there but as you can see far in to T-spawn I think it should be seen as oob but that's just my opinion.
It doesn't take to long to get up there I believe.

[Blunt]

that's not oob's Duv.

I've sat there many times...and been killed there more often than not.

the CT jumps on the boxes and squeezes thru the gap for a view of T's approach to B.

always been so iirc.

[Anonymous]

Not an easy one and I cant remember if it has been discussed before.

I do remember that when playing CT I have tried to get up there a couple of times but it takes a long time and may not be of benefit.

[Lee]

I think that it's OK to get up the boxes as CT but not really fair for them to look around the corner of the wall down towards T spawn.

[Blunt]

I think that it's OK to get up the boxes as CT but not really fair for them to look around the corner of the wall down towards T spawn.

But we can't start saying that you're allowed to be in a spot but you're not allowed to look in a certain direction.

I have always been under the impression that the git spot was ok....I've been shot from there before, and I've been there myself.

It's not a brilliant spot, but obviously works occasionally (as me and Duv found tonight)

My 2p

[Lee]

True Blunt you have a good point, i'm sort of sitting on both sides of the fence for this one.

[DuVeL]

As said, we made a silent aproach there to get ready for a delayed rush untill sudenly I got shot. I was like, where did that come from as I know I couldn't be seen from that bombspot or from the middle area. As the CT could see all the way up to our spawn when sitting there it ment you couldn't go left without being spotted or going middle when being spotted.
 
How I see it the CT's are more to defend around that bombspot without actually leaving "the box" there. I must say that it's a nice gitspot and it worked for the CT's several times there.

[KKND]

It was me that was sitting there and shot Duv..
With few jumps your on the boxes and doesn't take that long too get on.
I thought it wasn't oob.

[DuVeL]

Michel, you know I didn't want to add names.
Just wanted to ask if looking/shooting there towards T-spawn would be allowed or not. :flirty:
Otherwise T's don't have alot of options to move without being spotted for a delayed rush.

[Whitey]

That spot has always been seen as OK.  CT's in that position are usually easy to take out for the attacking T's (if they know to look).  Just make sure you don't fall over the far side, as then you are definitely too far.

[KKND]

If you stick your head too far out you sure will be shot indeed,maybe you can get one T but thats it.
If T running your way the sure will spot you sitting there.

@Pete i know m8 bout the name..

[DuVeL]

*Note to self then;
No more delayed rushes on the left, shortly afk while opening a bottle of Grolsch. You can get shot from up there...

[Dr Sadako]

Tbh it was a long time ago since I have seen a CT up there but I know that Ts regularly use it. My view on this is that it should be oob. The only reason to be up there is to get a view down towards T spawn and get some cheap kills.
I think that a good guideline is "are you unsure, don't use it".
 
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