Raiding

Grimnar · January 30, 2008, 07:25:44 AM

Well a few of us had a talk about us all raiding.

At the moment we raid Kara and just started in Gruuls Lair.

But kara is comming to an end for most of us. At least for the mains.
People still go there and help out the others to get their loot but at some point that helping will stop as run after run the only thing that person gets is a repairbill and a few badges...

So the idea came up to think also on the new people. Is to raid 1 week Kara and the other week ZA and in the weekend just gruul.

This to get our people back into raiding with their main character.

Kara is on farm status now. We now also know how to kill netherspite so some of the mains have 1 maybe 2 things to get out of kara and then are done with the place. So keep kara to gear up the new people and the alts. And give it a go at ZA so the people has some new stuff to do.

I dunno if i said it correctly but this is an idea and there are a few more people in sog who think the same.

So what do the officers and the rest think?

Marduk · January 30, 2008, 09:18:04 AM

as "rest" id say yahooo:yahoo:

Would love to take Marduk to ZA.

and as far as the "we need to gear people first", rubbish.
i have spoken to a few people, and most of our Raiding veterans if you may call it that, are tired of karazhan.

we have had it on farm a few times if you ask me, but every time the "elite" quit raiding out of boredom

So as far as the healing goed, Marduk and lunares are happy to go so far
and without wanting to sound cocky, i think wer both equiped to handle ZA so that leaves you with just 1 healer left, evoxer or philppa should be able to fill that spot just great

Jim · January 30, 2008, 10:13:51 AM

Quote from: Marduk;220647evoxer or philppa should be able to fill that spot just great

And Firenemesis :roflmao:

Marduk · January 30, 2008, 10:26:54 AM

QuoteAnd Firenemesis

no

....

Jim · January 30, 2008, 10:43:47 AM

Yeah, what happened if Evo / Philppa ain't around at the time?

Goregrinder · January 30, 2008, 10:57:09 AM

Quote from: Ice Hawk;220644Well a few of us had a talk about us all raiding.

Nice of u take charge there ice?

This is news to me as Raid leader

As Im aware the main Raid GRP has just progressed to get Kara on Farm and Last night was our very first full Clearance( early SOG raids not included),there is no need to Jump head 1st into other raids,as this takes time and organising.

Aim now is to get another grp into Kara and geared up for Gruul

As Duk Kindly put it ONLY the elite raiders can pretty much goto ZA and that would only be the 1st boss,after that its rock and we dont have the gear for it mostly!

I'm with u on badges and the repair bills tho,i would like one more piece of gear from kara and only Netherspite drops it

Now we have mastered the Netherspite fight we should do Kara in one evening soon,and that would be progress!

Marduk · January 30, 2008, 11:04:42 AM

Aye, ONLY the elite raiders indeed, and i really dont see the problem with that.

but please do consider, by the time you started with karazhan gore, i was pretty much done with it already ( and im sure im not the only one there )

We just want something new,
and the "we want karazhan on farm first" is kinda an old excuse
we had it on farm b4, and then the raid group fell apart to start again with trouble on shade

TeaLeaf · January 30, 2008, 12:03:43 PM

If you want something to get your teeth into before reaching for ZA why not Gruul, Void Reaver & Lurker. You'll find them a lot less difficult than ZA - you only just managed to kill the bear boss (by the skin of your teeth) and he is the easiest by far of all the bosses in ZA, this should tell you a lot about gear requirements. Luna certainly is an exception (full Tier 5) and to some extent Marduk may be an exception too, but the bulk of the raid does not have that level of gear. I'd be happy to assist with guidance or even toon time as required. I do however think the idea is a decent one, but that we need to leave it witht he officers and raid leaders to sort out how to progress raiding within SOG. Ideas are good though, keep them coming.

TL.

Marduk · January 30, 2008, 12:32:01 PM

Id say if TL is right, and ZA is really THAT hard ( no reason to doubt him)
then perhaps More Gruul, and a few bosses in ssc would be a decent alternative then

I just hope we can get a group for that together should our officers decide to go true with more raiding

Goregrinder · January 30, 2008, 02:05:22 PM

Well

This is my Second char that i have ran thru and completed kara on,im on a different perspective now,but if i chose to do so ,i could go do SSC and The Eye and ZA on my Horde anytime,but i like the new challenge of tanking (not very well i admit) but thats my choice,as it it yours to be bored with Kara.

I dont get paid for been raid leader i enjoy it immensly,at the point i joined what were you guys doing?

we have progressed alot since,and the majority of the raiders think so too,its only a minority that are bored with Kara,but its a means to an end gear wise!

If no Kara,no gruul,no SSc no Tk and so on and so on......

Jim · January 30, 2008, 02:18:15 PM

Since i respecced Holy from Prot to Retri, because of Gruul upcoming and more raids, i've been needed more on My Shaman (which when it first hit 70 wasn't intended to be a raiding character...

Anyway i've found Kara boring and the only reason i'd go back there is to get Holy geared up, IF you guys ever want him for 25 mans you'd have to have him geared up and its coming to the point where i offer to help out as DPS in Kara when you need it and being turned away

Marduk · January 30, 2008, 02:27:51 PM

So basicly gore, your saying your screwed, glad we have that clear then

and on a side note, whats your horde char got to do with it?

TeaLeaf · January 30, 2008, 02:47:12 PM

He didn' say you were screwed, I think he was saying that he appreciated that you were bored, but that as a raid you need a certian level fo gear to progress well. If SOG are quick and do Kara clearance runs & Gruul over the next few weeks most toons for a 25 person raid will have the gear needed to move onto trying either SSC Lurker or TK Void Reaver. Then it starts to get more interesting. I just think he was saying that it is difficult to move on to new things on your own and that the rest of the raid need to catch up.

ZA is more difficult imo than either Lurker or VR, with the exception of Bear boss who is the easiest boss there. I knwo they reckon that it is meant to take off where Prince left off in Karazhan, but it is not the same level it starts at a higher level and gets very much harder. Some of the best gear in game drops in ZA (T6 beating stuff in many cases) and this should tell you something about the gear requirement to get that sort of loot.

TL.

Goregrinder · January 30, 2008, 03:01:16 PM

I didnt suggest i was screwed Marduk!

Dont know where u got that from?

i was merely suggesting that i had 2 choices to raid,and to progress with 2 chars but i dont have the time so i chose to pick my alliance char,over my horde!

Thats it!

Grimnar · January 30, 2008, 05:03:31 PM

Quote from: Goregrinder;220659Nice of u take charge there ice?

This is news to me as Raid leader

Nope i am not taking charge. I said to those people that i would start the post about the things said in my first post. If i didn't started it someone else would...

And it aint really new news... It is going on for some time already...

You can also see it in the raid setups for the kara raid days..

Quoteits only a minority that are bored with Kara

And the group gets bigger...

I posted what some people within SOG are/where thinking about the kara raids.

And it aint an attack to you Gore at all if you might think that.