The Hitcher

Gh0st Face Killah · July 10, 2003, 10:58:43 PM

Finally they are releasing this classic thriller/horror on dvd. Out on monday and imo one of Rutger Heuers best ever performances (Blade Runner aside natually)

smilodon · July 10, 2003, 11:19:26 PM

I watched it with my mum and I remember her saying not only was is a fine movie but Rutger Heuer was well shaggable. I'll take her word for it.

Did anyone ever see him in Salute of the Jugger? Weird film 8O

Dingo · July 11, 2003, 10:14:27 PM

QuoteFinally they are releasing this classic thriller/horror on dvd. Out on monday and imo one of Rutger Heuers best ever performances (Blade Runner aside natually)

BLADE RUNNER..........film of the CENTURY (original and not the Director's cut naturally!!

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smilodon · July 11, 2003, 10:35:15 PM

Of course you got that the wrong way round there Dingo. I'm sure you meant the Directors Cut and not the original cut (or Studio Butchery as it is commonly known)

Who on earth could stand the "You're all to stupid to know what's going on so we'll give you a running commentary so you know where you are" voice over...

and the "Don't worry, it all has a happy ending, cause they escape to a sunny place and live happily ever after" bolt on crap ending.

It's well documented that Ridley Scott was appauled at what the studio did with his film and now considers his directors cut to be the only authentic version.

Happy to put you right there matey :wink:

JonnyAppleSeed · July 11, 2003, 10:59:56 PM

good to know the hitcher is available on dvd.......one great road movie....i can see me having to pick a copy up monday

right after i have bought "tail gunners 2" "back in black"and stick it where its hot" :wink:

Dingo · July 11, 2003, 11:15:54 PM

QuoteOf course you got that the wrong way round there Dingo. I'm sure you meant the Directors Cut and not the original cut (or Studio Butchery as it is commonly known) :

My dear Smilo you could not be more wrong

QuoteWho on earth could stand the "You're all to stupid to know what's going on so we'll give you a running commentary so you know where you are" voice over...:

Aux Contraire....In the best Marlowe tradition!!

Quoteand the "Don't worry, it all has a happy ending, cause they escape to a sunny place and live happily ever after" bolt on crap ending....:

There but for the Grace of God go I!! 8O ........It's just for that very reason you just know that it will not happen that way given the nature of the Beast (Man) and that is the moment to savour most of all :twisted:

QuoteIt's well documented that Ridley Scott was appauled at what the studio did with his film and now considers his directors cut to be the only authentic version. :

Even geniuses have their flaws!!

QuoteHappy to put you right there matey :wink:

If only you had looked that extra mile deeper then you would too have savoured the Delicious Irony that was evident..................".I have seen things that you people can only dream of, I have seen ships on fire over the (forgot) of Orion!!"..........................IMMORTAL!!!!!!!

smilodon · July 12, 2003, 12:45:08 PM

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If only you had looked that extra mile deeper then you would too have savoured the Delicious Irony that was evident..................".I have seen things that you people can only dream of, I have seen ships on fire over the (forgot) of Orion!!"..........................IMMORTAL!!!!!!!

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"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe."
"Attack ship on fire off the Shoulder of Orion"
"I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate."
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain..."
"Time to die............................................................"

Rutger Hauer 1982 (Roy Batty Nov 2019)

Which was of course a quote from the films dialog and not the cheesey voice over. Some things are matters of opinion and others are facts.

QuoteProducers decided a voiceover was required to explain things. Darryl Ponicsan was first hired to write the VO, but his version was tossed out. Then a veteran TV screenwriter named Roland Kibbee was hired to write it and this is what was used. Why he was chosen is a mystery particularly as he was all but retired (his career spanning 1946-1980). Ford was still contracted and reluctantly came in to the studio to read the voiceover, but said he would only do it 10 times and that was it. According to Katie Haber (production executive), he read it the way he did on purpose, hoping it wouldn't then be used. In their interview for the BR documentary, Peoples and Fancher say that by the time the movie came out they had become friends and when they heard the voiceover, they were so worried about the possibility that the other had written it, they didn't make any negative comments about it for months afterwards. Note that a voiceover was actually included as an idea in earlier scripts and a few of the lines are reminiscent of that, so it isn't as totally tacked-on as the "happy ending".

Scott didn't like the way the excessive "Irving the Explainer" voiceover turned out (and didn't want it added on anyway) so when the pseudo-Director's Cut was made, this was one of the first things to be excised. It will definitely not be reintroduced in the Special Edition!

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Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd
Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc

Sadly I am indeed the most quintessential of Blade Runner Annoraks :?

Gh0st Face Killah · July 12, 2003, 12:53:25 PM

Sorry to say but good as the directors cut is, neither of them is a patch on the Book, I dream of electric sheep, which the film is based on.

And Sorry Dingo but I'm with Smilo on this one, The directors cut blows the other version out of the water.

Dr Sadako · July 12, 2003, 01:19:54 PM

Quote... patch on the Book, I dream of electric sheep, which the film is based on.

It is actually "Do androids dream of electric sheep"

Clarence · July 13, 2003, 01:28:41 PM

Very good taste there Sadako - Philip K Dick is one of the finest SF authors out there.

He wrote a short story "We Can Remember It for You Wholesale" which is the inspiration for Total Recall (great premise, but the film was far too "Hollywood" for my tastes) as well as Blade Runner.

If anyone likes him then you might also like the work of Iain M. Banks and his "Culture" novels.

JimmyJazz · July 13, 2003, 02:32:48 PM

apparantly Philip's fans are affectionately known as dickheads :lol:

MisterEggs · July 13, 2003, 04:06:11 PM

In that case, i fully confess to being a total Dickhead :?

A Scanner Darkly is one of my all time favourite books. Must be read twice; once completely straight and once under the influence of your chosen illicit substance...

PKD is da'Man. Orwell being the other.

Gh0st Face Killah · July 13, 2003, 04:18:27 PM

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It is actually "Do androids dream of electric sheep"

Sorry my mistake.

I did know that as well! Doh!

But I still stand by it and say its a stunning book as is are most of his others as well. Wasn't Minority Report based on another of his?

Dr Sadako · July 13, 2003, 04:27:39 PM

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But I still stand by it and say its a stunning book as is are most of his others as well. Wasn't Minority Report based on another of his?

Yup. Short story aswell. If I am not mistaken it is called Minority Report also.

smilodon · July 13, 2003, 08:17:47 PM

The word-meister also penned a story called Second Variety. This was made into a movie called Screamers

http://uk.imdb.com/Details?0114367

Not a bad movie but not in the same league as Bladerunner, Total Recal & Minority Reports.