Ladder - Ranking system

[Dr Sadako]

The rating system is based on the intenational ELO-rating system used in Chess. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system

All players (or for us Teams) start with an rating of 1000 which also is a lowest achievable number.

On this page you see the forumula and how it works.
http://gobase.org/studying/articles/elo/

[Anonymous]

Övre
differensgräns  Vinst för den
sämre spelaren  remi  Vinst för den
bättre spelaren    
   10  16  0  16    33  17  1  15    56  18  2  14    79  19  3  13    102  20  4  12    126  21  5  11    151  22  6  10    178  23  7  9    207  24  8  8    236  25  9  7    270  26  10  6    308  27  11  5    352  28  12  4    409  29  13  3    499  30  14  2    500 och över  31  15  1

Seems fine to me :blink:

[Penfold]

Yup, that makes perfect sense to me.

PEN

[Penfold]

lol - great minds eh. Posted the same second :lmfao:

PEN

[Anonymous]

lol - great minds eh. Posted the same second :lmfao:

PEN

In your world maybe but I reckon I was at least 59.9 seconds faster than you :narnar:

[Dr Sadako]

And I was editing the post ....

[Dr Sadako]

Here is a calculator that does the job

http://www.littlethorpechess.co.uk/elo_calculator.htm

just look at the source code of the page to steal the script.

[Dr Sadako]

The ranking system explained above only takes win/draw/loss into account. I know it was discussed that some sort of bonus maybe should be given to lower rated teams if they manage to get rounds from a better rated team. I had a long hard think about it and discussed it for hours on my way home with Delan but we couldn't find a fair solution to it. I feel that a lost match should result in lost ranking points.

[Benny]

http://www.phpclasses.org/browse/package/2356.html

FOR THE SCRIPTY OUT there (sry caps)

The thing we need to clear up is how we admin. We would essentially need an admin on at any time there is a match. Pretty easy generally, but can you add selected team captains just the ability to hit 3rr?

So now the ladder is sorted, how about the deagle server, would you need to 3rr that?

[Dr Sadako]

http://www.phpclasses.org/browse/package/2356.html

FOR THE SCRIPTY OUT there (sry caps)

The thing we need to clear up is how we admin. We would essentially need an admin on at any time there is a match. Pretty easy generally, but can you add selected team captains just the ability to hit 3rr?

So now the ladder is sorted, how about the deagle server, would you need to 3rr that?

What you need is a word trigger in chat like the "MOTD" that does the RR, say  "3rrstart" and 3 restarts would be done. Whitey knows how to do that.

[Whitey]

The deagle server should be easy to sort out.  

I think it would be good to restrict it to Charlie (maybe Bravo) only as a membership benefit.



For those admins not at the LAN:

We have decided to shelve any plans on rejoining ED for the time being and start up the ladder again but this time using a chess rating system (similar to ED).  

We will also be introducing an informal 2 v 2 Deagle server that individuals can  team up on and have a quick match.  Stats will be used to determine the placing of the individuals.

[Benny]

So still hunting around for an easy way to run it and no doubt smoeone can do it easier than I, but bless, I'm trying.

Found this - http://www.mygamingladder.com/ladder.shtml
ignore the cost for now and also;
http://planetnexuiz.com/ladder/?p=News&page=2

Was originally looking for a way of using ELO and spreading it amongst the team. So essentially you could have any team of 4 and it wouldn't matter.

So imagine Team A vs B.
Team A consists of the following ratings (max 2000 for example):
(1)1600, (2)1500, (3)800, (4)700.

Team B consists of the following ratings (max 2000 for example):
(1)2000, (2)1100, (3)800, (4)300.

Then the result would place the pairs off against eachother in reverse order so lets say A wins. The scoring would be based on;
a1 vs. b4
a2 vs. b3
etc. so highest vs lowest. Then the highest skilled person would stand to lose the most in playing a lower rated opponent.

Not sure on the full dynamics, and am fairly sure I could do it in excel and post it up, but it would be manual updates (which again I'm happy to do).

I know this is a bit weird, but I really like the idea of it not mattering if you can't get a team, you can join any 4 and play whenever you like. Maybe this would be more suitableto the deagle games.

Let's say that Butta and I played Sadako and erm....Whitey (for being rubbish sake)

It's in my interest to get a few kills because in reality I'm pitched against Matts. The more Butta shoots him, the better for me, and vice versa with Whitey and Butta. Make sense? No? Good, I kknow what I mean, and this is essentially a brain dump.

Comments? Constructive preferably.

[Whitey]

I think both pieces of software would be good enough, the first one seems to be the most flexible.  For the 2v2, the individual ranking and non-structured teams would be good but for the 4v4 ladder, I would rather have fixed teams with a subs list (but some form of penalty for using a sub would be good).  Having fixed teams would help with team building and developing tactical play.

I could probably write something in PHP that would do the job but I don't know when I'd get round to doing it.

[Penfold]

Bumpity Bump.

"The Peasants are Revolting" (to quote Mel Brookes in History of the World Part I).... superb movie.

I think we need to get this back on track. I'm sorry that I havn'et got the l33t skillz to help with the technical side but I'll stand in front of you all and take the flak .

If we can't introduce the new format for a while perhaps we should just use the existing one and let that one ride for the time being?

PEN

[Whitey]

If we can't introduce the new format for a while perhaps we should just use the existing one and let that one ride for the time being?

PEN

Unless someone jumps in with the new ladder software soon then I agree.