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[Penfold]

You're welcome to come visit again. Please just remember to sign out with the Guard at the gate next time. :flirty:

My only concern is timings. I'm painfully aware that time is slipping by and realistically I'm struggling to find a day on the weekend free this month (and I presume that weekdays are not possible?).

PEN

[Penfold]

I remember some concerns about the Charlie status and whether it was decided to keep it or something equivalent. Or do we just run with the subscribers and non subscribers, plus the groups for forum permissions?

As far as I see it, we have two choices.

1. Make it as inclusive as possible and have supporter and non-supporter sections. +1's are that it's inclusive and fair-to-all. The -1's are that any numpty can pay £12 and we're stuck with them. At least with current structure we are able to filter them out from some parts of the forum.

2. Have a non-supporter (equiv. to Alpha) section, supporter (equiv. to Bravo) section and a 3rd private section. However how and who determines those appropriate? You could have a 3rd section for Golden Members as then, at least, one has more control over who gets the final badge required (quality forum contributor) and therefore who is let in but it reeks a bit of nepotism.

It's actually quite a tough call. I think we need to be transparent and inclusive but potentially we opening ourselves up to complete twonks.

PEN

PS. Let me know about meeting up.

[smilodon]

If we can get something that works quick and dirty for the time being and then plan to meet for a big clean up, streamline and sort out at a later date, that would work for me.

We could go with non subscriber - Alpha

Subscriber - Bravo

Invite only (for the 'right sort') - charlie. Maybe a sort of ambassador for the community. Long standing, supportive either in game or on forum, mature and thoroughly decent..... sort of like me really :devil:  This would be an inner sanctum but I'm a little unsure as to what exactly we would put there to make it worth getting access to.... free pron maybe?

Then for each game section we could run a private server admin forum for red badge holders, a private forum for green badge holders (not sure what they would want to talk about here?), a public forum for all to see and post in and any game specific forums such as modding, info, maps etc

Then we'd need to clean up any forums that don't fit into the above. The permissions could wait for a meet up at The Penfold Winter Castle?

[Doorman]

. free pron maybe?

I really must protest at your spelling. It's pr0n Now, you were saying?

[Armitage]

ACL was an old wow guild with only a few members in the day of SOG.

Now was not the original plan that GOLD members are the new Charlie and the key to achieving this was the forum badge. So we always have the key to the door being subjective.

[Armitage]

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[smilodon]

Good points but I'd argue the rules for getting a gold badge don't match the original concept of a charlie member. Being a Charlie was about being a certain type of player/person not about ticking specific boxes.  For example I don't fold and I'm never likely too. By the current rules I would never get the gold badge and never get the 'charlie' status. Likewise several of our strongest most active players hardly post at all on the forum.

If the criteria has changed to require involvement in the forum, folding, playing at least one game plus a general mature likable attitude, then that's fine and the gold badge works well. Otherwise the gold badge and the original concept for charlie membership IMHO are not the same?

[Penfold]

Do we really need a Charlie Equivalent section?

Apart form the Yabba Yabba section, the other germane stuff will be covered under games and the Yabba Yabba section is hardly used to any great degree.

If you want to go down the 'private invitee section' then so be it but I can't see it really being used that much tbh.

I think Arm's forum tree is fine except that Golden Members won't be charle equiv. All in all it is pretty much spot on.

if it's decided that we need a private section for selected people then se be it, it can be like an Old Boys Network.

I'm keen to push this forward while it's still fresh and we don't lose the impetus.

Can the relevant Game Section Heads please confirm if the proposed structure suits their games (or what else the need) and Smilo, does this work with the forum.

Let's try and keep on top of this.

PEN
PS. As my previoous post states, if you'd like to meet up then fine. I don't suppose you chaps can do weekdays? I'm presuming not and I can try and shunt a diary event or two to make space if needed.

We've done 90% of the work, let's keep on top of it and get the job finished :thumbsup2:.


PPS. If we need to adjust the criteria for Gold Members then that's fine. We so also need to have a criteria for 'quality forum contributor' and this is a tricky one. I think we do need to have some sort of guidelines here Greg.

[Gandalf]

weekdays are fine for me, just say when if required.

[smilodon]

I mention it as I remember Oldie was keen to keep the spirit of Charlie alive (sounds like a perfume advert) in the community. Charlie status was something you earned where as now it seems you can buy it. I have no strong opinion either way, so if I was wrong about the desire to keep a part of the community for 'the right sort' then we have no issues.

Weekdays with enough notice are fine for me too.

As to the forum contributor, I have no idea. I am not able to read all the posts that are made and so don't really have a clear idea about how it would be done. We do need a clear unambiguous set of guidelines as to what is required to get the badge which should be doable. It's the monitoring of posts and identification of recipients that's beyond me.

[Armitage]

I still thought that was the original concept of the gold member. If not whats the point of a Gold Member.

[Armitage]

Whitey, Ron & Sheepy still need to fill in there game section stuff

[OldBloke]

I mention it as I remember Oldie was keen to keep the spirit of Charlie alive (sounds like a perfume advert) in the community. Charlie status was something you earned where as now it seems you can buy it. I have no strong opinion either way, so if I was wrong about the desire to keep a part of the community for 'the right sort' then we have no issues.

I need to clarify this

There is no way I would sanction the 'buying' of status within dMw. My goal was to try and keep the sense of achievement that being made a Charlie brought. I was looking at the new badge system to see if a 'fit' could be achieved but decided against it.

There is a position within dMw that goes beyond the old Charlie status - the 'right stuff' I'm always bleating about. We had game playing Charlies who didn't have it and we have non playing members who do (OB looks at Smilo). Do we need a secret society of those we think are made of the right stuff? No we don't. Instead we recognise these people (quite easily really) and we try to ensure that we give them positions of responsibility within the community to help us going forward.

As to the forum contributor, I have no idea. I am not able to read all the posts that are made and so don't really have a clear idea about how it would be done. We do need a clear unambiguous set of guidelines as to what is required to get the badge which should be doable. It's the monitoring of posts and identification of recipients that's beyond me.

I still thought that was the original concept of the gold member. If not whats the point of a Gold Member.

The green forum badge is going to be a nightmare. It will not be possible IMHO to award this as a badge of quality forum posting without putting a lot of noses out of joint. Without a way of measuring forum quality then the Gold Member badge needs to be reassessed too.

[Penfold]

Shall we just scrap the forum quality contributor badge then ?

Greg - your call but really, if it's going to be a complete sod then let's put it on ice for the moment.

can Whitey, Ron and Sheepy please fill in their section so we can get this put to bed.... pm'd to that effect.

Thanks

PEN

[Doorman]

Shall we just scrap the forum quality contributor badge then ?

Greg - your call but really, if it's going to be a complete sod then let's put it on ice for the moment.

can Whitey, Ron and Sheepy please fill in their section so we can get this put to bed.... pm'd to that effect.

Thanks

PEN

My head is spinning! :blink: There is a dMr section in the forum, a dMr admin section in the admin bit, the players are designated drivers or admins. I've obviously had my head up my backside 'cos I'm at a loss as to what you want from me. :sad: