Dead Men Racing on Wednesday night

Started by Doorman, February 08, 2009, 04:36:19 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

vobler

Quote from: The Moose;266397Blimey, it didn't take long from a representative from the Church of iRacing to turn up and spread the gospel.:rolleyes: :sideways:
 At least when you've told the Jehovah's witnesses to **** off a couple of times they get the message. :lmfao:

Well I did not like that very much. I am no ones representative and you are in no position to tell me to go anywhere.

XLR8

#76
Quote from: Doorman;266384In the light of some testing done by GPC tonight, the bandwidth setting seemed to make a difference. For Snetterton I've made the server bandwidth requirements 200 somethings as against 300 somethings :D

Hi Ron,

I saw your post and thought it was strange to reduce the bandwidth from 300 to 200, so I had a look at the manual ( if in doubt RTFM! ). The manual suggests that the actual bandwidth setting applied in the network tab when setting the server should be about 80% of the actual bandwidth available. i.e. if the server actually does have a 300KBs uplink speed then in the server tab you'd put about 240KBs, this is apparently so nkpro can start dynamically throttling the data speed before it busts the actual network uplink limits, which is apparently what will cause lag and warping etc.
Bear in mind that whatever the stated network uplink speed is you will never get the full amount due to network protocol overheads.

The manual also states that to host a maximum of 15 drivers you should have at least 262KBs available which would require an actual uplink speed of around 330KBs.
Therefore my conclusion is that, at minimum you'd ideally want a 350KBs network uplink speed which would allow a setting of 280KBs in the server tab for nkpro to use.

So having said that, do you know what the actual server uplink speed really is? Hope this helps?

Oh and BTW, please no self harming on race nights, whatever happens!!!!   :)

P.S. Don't want to patronise anyone, but just for clarity - KBs = Kilo-Bytes per sec, as opposed to Kbs = Kilo-bits per sec which is eight times smaller/slower.
aka Mark Turnbull in nKPro :)

My NEW Flickr Pics  0<{V}>0  My Youtube Channel  0<{V}>0  My OLD Flickr Pics

Doorman

Quote from: XLR8;266420Hi Ron,

I saw your post and thought it was strange to reduce the bandwidth from 300 to 200, so I had a look at the manual ( if in doubt RTFM! ). The manual suggests that the actual bandwidth setting applied in the network tab when setting the server should be about 80% of the actual bandwidth available. i.e. if the server actually does have a 300KBs uplink speed then in the server tab you'd put about 240KBs, this is apparently so nkpro can start dynamically throttling the data speed before it busts the actual network uplink limits, which is apparently what will cause lag etc. Bear in mind that whatever the stated network uplink speed is you will never get the full amount due to network protocol overheads.

I understand that. The trouble is, I think, (and I'm not alone) is nKPs doubtful net code. So going by the manual is a bit hit 'n' miss! Even the 300 figure was an arbitrary one.

QuoteThe manual also states that to host a maximum of 15 drivers you should have at least 262KBs available which would require an actual uplink speed of around 330KBs.

So having said that, do you know what the actual server uplink speed really is? Hope this helps?
TBH I have asked, but either I didn't understand the answer or was told 'sufficient'. I really can't remember. I'll ask again and ask for the answer in words of one syllable. :)
QuoteOh and BTW, please no self harming on race nights, whatever happens!!!!   :)
It's my throat and I'll cut it if I want to :narnar:










     

XLR8

Or to do it the other way round, would it be possible to request that it is set to at least 350KBs for the netKar servers?
aka Mark Turnbull in nKPro :)

My NEW Flickr Pics  0<{V}>0  My Youtube Channel  0<{V}>0  My OLD Flickr Pics

Doorman

Quote from: XLR8;266423Or to do it the other way round, would it be possible to request that it is set to at least 350KBs for the netKar servers?
I can set it to what I like, I just want the right setting. I've consulted brains bigger and fresher that mine. Watch this space. :)










     

OldBloke

Quote from: Doorman;266428I can set it to what I like, I just want the right setting. I've consulted brains bigger and fresher that mine. Watch this space. :)

PM answered. :)
"War without end. Well, what was history if not that? And how would having the stars change anything?" - James S. A. Corey

Doorman

Quote from: OldBloke;266429PM answered. :)
In the light of a reply from a bigger and fresher brain, I've upped the bandwidth to 550 kilomegabots/s. I just hope that's enough. :sad:










     

XLR8

Kilomegabots Rule!  :taz:

Lets hope this bodes well for Wednesday.
aka Mark Turnbull in nKPro :)

My NEW Flickr Pics  0<{V}>0  My Youtube Channel  0<{V}>0  My OLD Flickr Pics

OldBloke

Quote from: Doorman;266445In the light of a reply from a bigger and fresher brain, I've upped the bandwidth to 550 kilomegabots/s. I just hope that's enough. :sad:

The nkP server (and all our others) share a 100Mbps pipe.

100 Mbps [Megabit-per-second]
=100000 Kbps [Kilobit-per-second]
=12500 KB/sec [Kilobyte-per-second]

So if nkP recommends 80% of the available bandwidth then that would be ...

=10000 KB/sec [Kilobyte-per-second]

That's a big number. Set it to 750 thingyjobbiewhotsits. That'll be plenty.:)
"War without end. Well, what was history if not that? And how would having the stars change anything?" - James S. A. Corey

XLR8

#84
Quote from: OldBloke;266467The nkP server (and all our others) share a 100Mbps pipe.

Hhmmm... just a thought then but, if the servers are all on a shared pipe is there anything else significant that happens on a Wednesday night around 20:30 to 21:00 because that was about the time that we had the problems at each of the tracks where the game crashed?

i.e. is anything else causing a restriction on the available bandwidth at that time?

Are there any network or server stats/logs available for those times?  :g:


Quote from: OldBloke;266467Set it to 750 thingyjobbiewhotsits.

If that's KBs then that should be roughly treble the recommended requirements according to the manual, so a big   :thumbsup2:  to that!
aka Mark Turnbull in nKPro :)

My NEW Flickr Pics  0<{V}>0  My Youtube Channel  0<{V}>0  My OLD Flickr Pics

OldBloke

Quote from: XLR8;266476... is anything else causing a restriction on the available bandwidth at that time?

Absolutely not. We used to have discos on LFS when that was full on a Thursday but since we fixed our firewall issue that has been sweet as a nut.
"War without end. Well, what was history if not that? And how would having the stars change anything?" - James S. A. Corey

Doorman

Sounds of footsteps echoing down corridor....Door slams










Door opens. Sounds of footsteps echoing back up corridor.
Puff puff puff!  Right! 750 kilogramsofcoke/s it is. :eyebrow:










     

XLR8

WooHoo! - Kilogramsofcoke trumps Kilomegabots :yahoo:

So if the servers uplink is at 750 then the netKar network tab setting can be anything up to 600 Kiloelectroencephalogodzillagrams right?

Which should be plenty. :dribble:
aka Mark Turnbull in nKPro :)

My NEW Flickr Pics  0<{V}>0  My Youtube Channel  0<{V}>0  My OLD Flickr Pics

Doorman

Quote from: XLR8;266504WooHoo! - Kilogramsofcoke trumps Kilomegabots :yahoo:

So if the servers uplink is at 750 then the netKar network tab setting can be anything up to 600 Kiloelectroencephalogodzillagrams right?

Which should be plenty. :dribble:
The network tab settings is one of the things we tested last night. Made not one iota of difference. :rolleyes:










     

XLR8

Ok, I'm running out of ideas now. Here's my last three -

A) Does anyone on the forum know how to do Voodoo?

B) Does anyone have Harry Potters phone number?

C) Is anyone willing to sell their soul to the Devil for better netcode?

.
aka Mark Turnbull in nKPro :)

My NEW Flickr Pics  0<{V}>0  My Youtube Channel  0<{V}>0  My OLD Flickr Pics