Suggestion for the current raiding situation

[Jim]

Before you read this i do not want this taken out of proportion so that I'm the victim of flames, I'm only posting my opinion.

Right, Iââ,¬â,,¢m beginning to think that 25 man Rotface + Festergut seem to be out of our depth at the current moment in time, Ok we're not FAR off but we're constantly having the same problems with Rotface, Not even had a look at Festergut (Which i donââ,¬â,,¢t think would be that far off as we're not really lacking on the DPS front anymore) and not even getting to the point where we're actually progressing in any shape or form at all, I struggle to think what the next wing will be like once we actually reach there....

Now i know some of you will moan when I say 10 Man ICC

Reason being people might not exactly like the idea of doing 10 mans during raid nights but being honest, i see two main possibilities which i will share:

1) 10 Man's on raid nights might not be the best idea anymore...

I'm starting to dislike the fact that 10 man ICC's saved for only 1 night a week which most groups get to Professor Putricide each week then due to 25 mans on the other Raid nights, donââ,¬â,,¢t get touched upon for another week... My solution to this? Take 10 men ICC runs off the Raid nights, so that maybe we could see the place cleared for once... But also that it gives people a chance to get better geared for the 25 mans which we can use to get progression.... Remember Ulduar all those moons ago? Yogg-Saron / General Vezax specifically in 25. Those 10 people we had doing the 10 mans over and over, who had slightly better gear than the 25 man group because of the dedication shown, actually helped the raid in the end and we got our first kill (After using the 10 mans to actually get the gear and better practise on the 10 man versions of the fight)

Now, if we have 10 mans off raid nights then people might then feel they're not going to get into the groups because they cant be around for said night... but I REALLY, I mean REALLY REALLY miss the 10 mans that I / others used to run on Wednesdays + Friday nights, where we could actually have fun and progress as a solid group. After a while once we were all in sync the bosses would go down so easily and we would then get some great progression, like stated earlier, to help out the 25 mans.

Now for my 2nd option i can guess this is going to get rejected straight away but itââ,¬â,,¢s worth a shot

2) Set weeks where we ONLY do 10 mans on the raid nights...

This way people who can only be on at raid nights will actually get a chance to experience the progression and get some gear.... Sure you might lose 12 Frost Emblems for the week where we don't do 25 man, but if we get some good progression and get some new bosses down in 10 man which equals better gear, which then helps 25 man so we end up getting more emblems from the 25 mans, seems like a Great idea to me... although Iââ,¬â,,¢d personally prefer the first option.

Now obviously Iââ,¬â,,¢m not the officers, Iââ,¬â,,¢m not able to get inside their heads and see what they honestly think about the raids in the current situation... But I would love it if maybe we could have people comment positively and see what others might suggest, that way the Officers could see what the guild is saying and then help the guild out in a good way

Right, taken me long enough to write + spell check this time for bed.

Jim

[Limps]

Before you read this i do not want this taken out of proportion so that I'm the victim of flames, I'm only posting my opinion.

Right, Iââ,¬â,,¢m beginning to think that 25 man Rotface + Festergut seem to be out of our depth at the current moment in time, Ok we're not FAR off but we're constantly having the same problems with Rotface, Not even had a look at Festergut (Which i donââ,¬â,,¢t think would be that far off as we're not really lacking on the DPS front anymore) and not even getting to the point where we're actually progressing in any shape or form at all, I struggle to think what the next wing will be like once we actually reach there....

Now i know some of you will moan when I say 10 Man ICC

Reason being people might not exactly like the idea of doing 10 mans during raid nights but being honest, i see two main possibilities which i will share:

1) 10 Man's on raid nights might not be the best idea anymore...

I'm starting to dislike the fact that 10 man ICC's saved for only 1 night a week which most groups get to Professor Putricide each week then due to 25 mans on the other Raid nights, donââ,¬â,,¢t get touched upon for another week... My solution to this? Take 10 men ICC runs off the Raid nights, so that maybe we could see the place cleared for once... But also that it gives people a chance to get better geared for the 25 mans which we can use to get progression.... Remember Ulduar all those moons ago? Yogg-Saron / General Vezax specifically in 25. Those 10 people we had doing the 10 mans over and over, who had slightly better gear than the 25 man group because of the dedication shown, actually helped the raid in the end and we got our first kill (After using the 10 mans to actually get the gear and better practise on the 10 man versions of the fight)

Now, if we have 10 mans off raid nights then people might then feel they're not going to get into the groups because they cant be around for said night... but I REALLY, I mean REALLY REALLY miss the 10 mans that I / others used to run on Wednesdays + Friday nights, where we could actually have fun and progress as a solid group. After a while once we were all in sync the bosses would go down so easily and we would then get some great progression, like stated earlier, to help out the 25 mans.

Now for my 2nd option i can guess this is going to get rejected straight away but itââ,¬â,,¢s worth a shot

2) Set weeks where we ONLY do 10 mans on the raid nights...

This way people who can only be on at raid nights will actually get a chance to experience the progression and get some gear.... Sure you might lose 12 Frost Emblems for the week where we don't do 25 man, but if we get some good progression and get some new bosses down in 10 man which equals better gear, which then helps 25 man so we end up getting more emblems from the 25 mans, seems like a Great idea to me... although Iââ,¬â,,¢d personally prefer the first option.

Now obviously Iââ,¬â,,¢m not the officers, Iââ,¬â,,¢m not able to get inside their heads and see what they honestly think about the raids in the current situation... But I would love it if maybe we could have people comment positively and see what others might suggest, that way the Officers could see what the guild is saying and then help the guild out in a good way

Right, taken me long enough to write + spell check this time for bed.

Jim

tbh i dont agree we need to push more 25 man as the many 10 man runs have not given us enough time for the 25 man fights i belive. get in on sunday and crack it open i am sure he will go down after some tries, but it also require ppl to belive in it.

[sheepy]

Thanks for your comments jim, you have brought a few issues to the front of my mind that I have been meening to adress but had put on a back burner.
Im sure that we will see some progress throughout very shorty, and I have a few ideas that may help, if they become agreed upon then they will be implemented, if im talking absoloute crapola then they wont, im putting them to the offiers just the same.

[Deminion]

I have another thing that has been on my mind for a couple of weeks now.
VOA25. It seems like hordes always have control when we start our raid, and when we reach the end of the night, nobody wanna stick around to do it, so we seem to never get around to do it. Would it be possible to take it off the schedule, and let ppl pug it like always?

[Sithvid]

All the previous bosses in Naxx Ulduar TOC have given us problems,  we are gaining exp and loot.
I would rather keep at it we will get there.