Where we're at

Penfold · May 27, 2010, 10:10:54 AM

I'm not going to reply in depth as others have. Just let me clear something up

Quote from: GhostMjr;311032We are all volunteers. Its a great idea but we aren't a business. I can't ask my troops or anyone to devote x number hours a week they might not be able to. Volunteer work is adhoc and done when people are free and are willing to do the tasks.

I'm not suggesting that you do or can. It wasn't my idea.

I'm suggesting that the resistance is systemic of the game as a whole. There seems an overriding resistance to this game on our servers. Please don't try and pin this back on us, we're calling it how we see it. I like BC2 and I'd love to play it. However I'm only interesting in playing with dMw which is why I'm sad when I go online to play and see the server empty.

Quote from: GhostMjr;311032"I am unsure whether all my admins can still see the topic"

Have you PM'ed them all to check why they're not replying in the admin forum? What is the reply? ............It's kinda critical. If they're not responding to your PM's then that's something else.

Either way, I've checked each of their permissions and as far as we're concerned Smilodon has given them all permissions and they've had them for a few weeks (since the change). We even had a discussion about it as we weren't sure what Kakehund's forum name was.

You had an admin meeting yesterday. Were they were all there? Did you check about the forum access?

Who didn't attend?

can you please let me know about the above so we can establish once and for all about the forum access?

Thanks

GhostMjr · May 27, 2010, 12:00:14 PM

QuoteHave you PM'ed them all to check why they're not replying in the admin forum? What is the reply? ............It's kinda critical. If they're not responding to your PM's then that's something else.

I have pm'ed them all some have responded some haven't. I am still waiting to see Kakehund, Dewey, Paddy and Magnus post in the section as of yet i haven't seen them post so i do not know what is going on. They know where the section is as i've told them.

QuoteYou had an admin meeting yesterday. Were they were all there? Did you check about the forum access?

Only four attended- Tbag, Skass, Lion and myself. They already have access to the forum.

TeaLeaf · May 27, 2010, 01:04:53 PM

Have you looked at the badges awarded to BC2 admins to cross-check who you have asked to have a badge & have access?

TeaLeaf · May 27, 2010, 07:33:13 PM

Things I like:
The Rackage host idea and joining that group of self-seeding admins.

Would people support that idea if we renewed for another period?

Penfold · May 27, 2010, 08:06:49 PM

Guys,

GhostMjr has resigned as TGL for BC2.

He cites the fact that some of the admins do not have badges as a reason.

Both TL and I told him weeks ago about the need to make sure he badges people up or to ask if he needs help so it's not particularly a valid reason but hey ho.

I guess this makes TL's post all the more poignant now so we'd appreciate your comments. TL is also going to try and catch you chaps online.

In the meanwhile if you have any questions please shout.

Thanks

Penfold · May 27, 2010, 08:23:38 PM

edit:

I've spoken to GhostMjr and there are other reasons why he has resigned - so the above is not the sole reason.

I also understand that he, and several others of you, were upset at my comments above. For that I apologise. I shouldn't have vented my frustrations in such as broad generalisation. Not that it's a defence but please bear in mind that it's down to us to vocalise what what others are telling us - be they members of the Community other game admins or other Community Admins.

Also, I shoudn't have posted yesterday, my emotions were all over the place (on Tuesday, not only was my 7 year old daughter in hospital for an hour long Meckel scan but my mum was diagnosed with Cancer). Not an excuse but I over-vented.

Anyway, I do apologise if I've upset you. It wasn't my intention. I've known most of you for many years and I hope you guys also know in return that it's not normally my style.

Like I said above, Please do feel free to reply, post, PM or generally cuss me if you want to vent.

Thanks

Tutonic · May 27, 2010, 09:48:39 PM

I'm wasn't offended Pen, no worries there. Given your personal circumstances, I think we can all excuse your grumpiness.

More on-topic, we managed to seed the server tonight and fill it up without any outside assistance. Moving people into separate TS channels made things a bit more organised - cheers for that TL.

lionheart · May 27, 2010, 10:39:56 PM

As has been said before it only takes 6-8 people in game and the publics flood in.

Good games tonight.

big-paddy · May 28, 2010, 09:13:21 PM

Late entrant to the conversation. I havent been following things as I thought BC2 was effectively dead in dMw.

Just a few comments.

Comms are not the problem. Benny mentioned we can change TS channels. Pubs don't always talk or even listen to ingame comms anyway. BC2 is by design a tactical TEAM game as Tut states. If anyone would like a demonstration of BC2 being played tactically then PM me or any of the BIG guys and we will show you how it feels, we have now reached the point where if we don't get best squad we sulk. This is not CSS or COD it is another game and needs a different team approach. Sure go frag if you like, but you wont beat team BIG that way and competitively we would encourage you to do that as much as you like.

There have been a number of mistruths stated.

None of us were insulted by Ninja (I cant imagine any of us ever being offended by Ninja) and that has not led to us playing elsewhere. We played elsewhere 1. because the DMW server is usually empty and 2. because we like to play together and don't think that is the way to recruit. I guess we would always instigate away days in any case. We didn't come back (gosh that reads bad!)

Admin channel access. Ghosty pm'ed password. I pm'ed success as requested. Magnus can't see it because he isn't an admin.

I take no offense.

TeaLeaf · May 29, 2010, 08:04:21 AM

On the assumption that we renew, what is the preference of the BC2 admins - remain with Multiplay or is switch the hosting to Rackage and trying to be part of the self-seeding group? Remember we lose bookmarks when we switch IPs if we move so there are pros and cons. Opinions please.

lionheart · May 29, 2010, 06:13:04 PM

Not sure how exactly this seeding with Rackage works but if it means more players on our server it can only be a good thing can't it ?

If this admin tool (wolfcon) works I think this will help us as well, the mixed mode is a winner as far as I concerned, I was playing last night on our server and by 10:30 it was empty, I looked in my faves and all the servers playing conquest were full, all those playing rush were empty.

Is there a cost difference between the choices we have ?

Not sure the bookmark loss is too much of an issue really, dont think we have that many regular publics at all.

valdeko · May 29, 2010, 07:18:43 PM

Cant really say anything about Rackage since havent tried it, but i quess there's only one way to find out.

And conserning regular publics: we lost all of them ages ago.

Blunt · May 29, 2010, 11:56:14 PM

Well, from what I've seen, 141's server is pretty full most of the day, every day.
They work hard to seed the server, using a shoutbox on their forum to let each other know when they are needed.
AFAIK they sometimes join and just stay for a map, just to kick things off.

My experience tonight gave me reason to be hopeful;
I have been having PB problems lately and have been trying different things to sort it.
This evening I joined our empty server to see how long I lasted before PB kicked me, and I jumped in a tank.
I was messing about just killing time and blowing up trees.
5 mins later Gmj joined and within another couple of minutes we had 12 or so playing.
after that it just filled up and stayed full (it was fullish when I left 5 mins ago)

Great games tonight

And I didn't get PB kicked either!

lionheart · May 30, 2010, 12:24:07 AM

Same thing happened to me this afternoon. I was on the server messing about with the admin tools, changing maps etc and the next thing I know there was 6 people on there,
I had been changing maps and stuff for about 15mins so christ knows what they must of thought, any way I apologised and thought Id have a quick round; next thing theres 24 of us on there.

lionheart · May 30, 2010, 01:05:51 AM

1:05am still 30 people on the server, have we started giving club card points or something?