ICC 10 HM - Festergut and BQL down

[DFE]

We made some progress last night in ICC 10. WE have one-shotted Festergut. After 4-5 wipes on HM Blood princes (obviously because hunter was asked NOT to tank Keleseth:narnar:) we decided to do them on normal and kill Lana'thel on hard mode. That happened on the the very first try, too.
We also killed Rotface HM for second time last night.
This means we leapt 7 spots on rankings from 35th to 28th. We are aiming for Blood Princes and Valithria next week.
See some videos from last night.

[Aldaren]

Those two kills on Princes and VD should jump us upto 23rd on 10 man, however aiming to get Sindragosa done as well for a nice 10/12 hardmodes.

Ranked spot aim next week is 21st. Dont forget to bring your towel.

Thanks

Stargazer Aldaren

[Leemo]

Oooh, Sindragosa Hc - time to whip out the Frost Res gear

[DFE]

Oooh, Sindragosa Hc - time to whip out the Frost Res gear

Best tanks for Sindy are hunter pets. You dont need to swap tanks in P3, you dont need to take care of Frost Breath because the damage is almost non-existent. The only issue is with threat so 3 hunters with MD are needed...
Look at this video

[Leemo]

That's hilarious - 4 healers though, that's excessive no?

[DFE]

Yes, 4 healers are far too much if you take into account decreased tank damage.
However, this is not hilarious, I am seriously eager to try this out. I also read this article and 2 hunters should be enough. I will craft and buy 4 more armor pieces, put there proper stamina gems and enchants and I will have close to 55K HP with ICC buff.Like this my pet should have almost 50K HP, being uncrittable, and only caring about melee and cleave damage. Pet will have over 20K armor, mitigating almost 60% of physical damage.
6.5 DPS, 1 tanking pet, 3 healers. Isnt it tempting?
Also, hunter pets have better resistances than any tank and they have talents to increase incoming healing by 54%. Do you know any other class with such abilities?
This would be my stats, DPS, health, etc...

[Bamsebror]

Lol u actually want to have a hunter pet to tank Sind ? sry but that is just plain stupid. More easy is to get 2 tanks with Frost ress gear and do it then u dont need that stupid 3 hunters with MD etc.

[Jim]

Lol u actually want to have a hunter pet to tank Sind ? sry but that is just plain stupid. More easy is to get 2 tanks with Frost ress gear and do it then u dont need that stupid 3 hunters with MD etc.

Jims 5 Easy Steps

1) Grab DFE and his wonderous pet
2) Grab Zeol
3) Go to ICC 10 sindragosa Hard mode
4) ??
5) Profit

also, im up for trying it - seen a pet tank Hodir

[Alleriana]

Afraid of something a lil different, Bamse?

[Leemo]

6.5 DPS, 1 tanking pet, 3 healers. Isnt it tempting?

Welllll, as there's no room for a prot pally amongst that, I vote NO

But yeah, Bamse, if it's been demonstrated as a viable, if unconventional tactic, you can't really brand it as "stupid"

PS - Dfe, you are officially a hunter freak.

[DFE]

More easy is to get 2 tanks with Frost ress gear

Because FrR gear mitigates 95% of frost damage and conventional tanks increase incoming healing by 54%?

then u dont need that stupid 3 hunters

True, smart two hunters are better.

Screenshot or it didnt happen:
Hard mode here and normal mode here. Write-up here

Thanks for arguments,
DFE

[Bamsebror]

Reason that i said it is becuase ive killed Sind hc on my shammy and druid(i was the tank) without any hunters soo just wanted to let u know its alot more easy since the tanks should have the FR gear already and instead of struggling to get 3 good hunters online and maby waste some time on it

[DFE]

Reason that i said it is becuase ive killed Sind hc on my shammy and druid(i was the tank) without any hunters soo just wanted to let u know its alot more easy since the tanks should have the FR gear already and instead of struggling to get 3 good hunters online and maby waste some time on it

I guess you missed the point I am not saying it is not possible to do it "normal way" on HM. The point in pet tanking Sindy (HC or not) is ridiculously low damage, no need for tank swapping and higher RDPS in P3 when it really matters. Speaking about Hard Mode, during P1 pet takes 2K from Frost breath. During P3 it takes from 6K damage with 12 stacks of Mystic buffet up to 22K with 31 stacks (!!!) of Mystic buffet   -see log

That is one benefit. Second benefit is increased DPS in P3 when it is needed the most - You have 2-3 more DPS to take care of Frost Tombs (depending if you go with 2 or 3 healers).
Regarding threat issues: I wrote later that only 2 hunters are really needed for MD. In P1 DPS doesnt really matter, every single DPSer can hold off his damage if neede and still RDPS would be probably higher than when using 2 conventional tanks. In P3 threat shoudnt be an issue at all.

As for physical damage - the pet has ~25% avoidance and is crit immune. It takes avg 13K melee hits each 1.5 sec. That means it should be able to take 4 hits in a row without a heal for 6 seconds - log here

[Alleriana]

Your arguments are stunning, Bamse.

[Bamsebror]

Stfu Alleriana