AvP

[ChimpBoy]

Originally posted by Zok+Apr 7 2004, 07:04 PM-->

[Zok]

Cohesive it won’t be, a jumbled mass of words maybe, an amount of words rearranged to make some sort of sense, doubtful.

It’s a jolly romp, based on a console game there’s hardly going to be any depth of story, there is no sense of empathy for the majority of the characters, buts that’s okay because the don’t live that long anyway. It’s got plenty of action, some quite nice special effects and plenty of zombies wandering around ready to tear and devour the flesh from the ill informed cleanup crew.

Basically it’s no brainer entertainment in a box, as such it’s never going to be a classic movie, but it will be entertaining, and that really is the point, there is no in depth story, you’re not introduced to the characters, you’re not really aware of what kind of society they are living in, but in watching this kind of movie who cares?

When AvP comes out it is more than likely that I will trundle down to the local Odeon to watch it, if I enjoy it I may even add it to my DVD collection, is it likely to become a classic film in the same way that Alien was? I think not, it will be another title added to the rapidly expanding mass of “pop” films.

And on a final note, I doubt very much whether I could change your mind about this “pile of steaming poo” as I take it you are old enough to form your own opinions. :narnar:

[ChimpBoy]

Originally posted by Zok@Apr 8 2004, 02:05 PM
there is no in depth story, you’re not introduced to the characters, you’re not really aware of what kind of society they are living in, but in watching this kind of movie who cares?

This was kind of my point - even the sfx aren't up to much (that big dog at the end was awful) and the whole thing looks amateurish.  The strike team at the beginning get wiped out - ok, but look at how James Cameron did it in Aliens.  You got to really empathise and sympathise with Frost, Drake and co, yet they don't make it 40 mins of the film.  With the RE bunch I couldnt pick them out of a line up.

You have no actor to carry it (a model as the lead and a supporting actress notable only for a bit part in the Fast and Furious    ).  It's an ok console game that is one of many poor film conversions.

Unfortunately it smacks of virtually all Paul Anderson films i.e. looking like a very cheap direct-to-video release.  I pray that AvP will be as dark and scary as the trailer makes it appear, but Resident Evil didnt have me on the edge of my chair once.  And the shuffling zombies are a poor comparison to the fear generated by the ones in 28d ays later that ran screaming at you for your blood.

And on a final note, I doubt very much whether I could change your mind about this “pile of steaming poo” as I take it you are old enough to form your own opinions. :narnar:

Now now Zokky - I've always believed in my ability to be both persuaded and educated  

[smilodon]

Now if Alice had been a man and had been played by Bill Paxton and Jenette Goldstein had taken the role of Rain Ocampo then I think we'd  be singing a different tune ...eh Mousey  

[Dingo]

ZOK RULES OK!!



I loved Resident Evil


and no doubt in 20 years time when it is a classic, much sought after, and reviewed time and time again on Film 2024, you my dear Chimpy will be eating Humble Pie, and extolling the virtues of a little known, but clearly brilliant, review of a Gentleman by the name of ZOK  



Star Wars Pfttt!!! :whistle:  :ph34r:

[Zok]

Thank you Dingo, I had indeed heard you were a person of impeccable taste.


Now were getting personal, there is nothing wrong with Milla.

I’m not saying this to get a rise but to be honest I find James Cameron films a little on the bland side. If you were to be talking about the Alien films, then I would have to say without any doubt that the first film was definitely the best and most original, it was also expertly directed. The third film, although receiving many slatings, also had an original slant. Your gonna hate me for this but, I really like the fourth episode (although it’s not a patch on the previous three). Aliens, mmmm, tis indeed a very good film, but I feel that Mr. Cameron has taken the Japanese approach to this film (as he has done with others) in that its not that original, it appears to be much better but has a plasticky feeling to it. What makes the Alien films exceptional is the Alien and Gigers incredible artwork.

Anyway that’s my opinion

Of to Florence tomorrow so have fun guys

Can’t wait to meet up at the LAN

Cheers

[ChimpBoy]

Originally posted by Smilodon+Apr 8 2004, 07:23 PM-->

[smilodon]

Cameron is one of the most grossly overated directors of all time. He has managed to do nothing of any great merit.

He began reasonably well with his low budget Terminator. As is often the case when a Director is working on a restricted budget, especially when he or she is a relatively unknown director , then they don't have the luxury of self indulgence. This tends to lead to tightly directed films. Terminator is the classic example of a film stripped of Hollywood excess by budget constraints. Pitch Black is another prime example. Both films are much the better for it.

After thet we have the abysimal Abyss. A film that looked great until it's excruciating ending, which must go down as the worst and most implausiable ending to a film ever made.

His only two decent films were Aliens and Terminator 2. Neither an original idea and Aliens was arguably the least true of the Alien Quadrilogy. The other three films for better or worse, stayed within the sci-fi horror genre, with their dark and depressing styles. Cameron can't do stylish horror, so unsuprisingly went for a big effects war film. The Aliens lost all their terrible potence by becoming cannon fodder for Camerons band if idiot testosterone pumped marines. A good film but not great. It certainly rode the coat-tales of the original film.

Terminator 2 worked only as a vehicle for Arnie and without him,  plus the inspired casting of Robert Patric as the T-1000, the film would have been the crap Terminator 3 only twelve years early.

True Lies was poo apart from Bill Paxtons scenes and the Jamie Lee Curtis striptease  :dribble:

And then we have Titanic. Proof positive that the world has gone insane. Remeber this film was considered by the Acadamy to be better than As Good As It Gets, The Full Monty, Good Will Hunting and astonishingly the superb LA Confidential...nuff said.

After Titanic there's been some TV work and thankfully nothing else. I just hope he's taken early retirement.

[Gh0st Face Killah]

New AVP trailer here

[ALpHA]

omg...thats looooks siiiick!

i can't wait to see it!!

 :taz:  :clap:  :taz:

[Barley]

Looks quite good actually, I was expecting some tacky Freddy vs Jason remake type thing

[DarkAngel]

SWEET    Always loved the aliens films and the predator one's

[Zok]

Oh dear

[Dr Sadako]

Originally posted by Zok@Jul 1 2004, 01:56 PM
Oh dear

:lmfao: Priceless! Even worse than I thought it would be.

[smilodon]

If I can stop just one person from seeing Alien vs. Predator, I’ll be satisfied. Of course, if I were looking forward to this movie, I probably would still see it, regardless of what “some guy” thinks. But I beg you: don’t see this movie. Don’t support Paul W.S. Anderson. Because if you do, he’s only going to continue to make more movies like this.

Well the reviewers convinced me not to see this film.

So probably worse than ST2. There's a turn up for the books eh :whistle: