Piracy

[Benny]

One of you clever mofo's. What is the take on Codemasters degenerating copy protection, the theory made good sense, is it feasible, how do you get round it?

Just interested cos the piracy issues elsewhere sparked me out of this comatose world of pen testing.

oh and here you are you lazy fokkers

http://www.dvdrhelp.com/forum/archive/t182114.html

[Doorman]

An interesting read and one that made me think, these guys aren't in it for a free game are they? It's an intellectual challenge.  

[DuVeL]

It could be easily solved. Burn it on a disk and just reinstall. Depends on when the effect is coming in (duration, or else you might have to install it lots of times before ending the game). The save games and so allready could have been copied so they can be placed back after the reinstall. Just my 2 cents here.

[JonnyAppleSeed]

dont panic ...its a smoke screen from the makers of operation flashpoint pretending they didnt bring out a borked game .....

and as for me getting hooked on a game that keeps messing up .....i dont think so....    erm ang on ......if thats true why do i still play cs and put up with steam

[JB]

Operation flashpoint works fine for me and i bought it as soon as it hit the shelves, never had it crash, fail, shoot off target or anything.  IMHO the game played fine.

[smilodon]

The Fade technology is POO. I am a big fan of the Flashpoint series and have bought all the games and expansions. However I am well aware of hacked copies that can be obtained on the Net and played over long periods of time. So if Fade exists then someone has been able to break it and copy the game without the degrading performance feature working.

Also Flashpoint is hundreds of years old so Fade must be late 1990's technology and therefore it's hardly new technology. If it had worked back then it would have spread to many more titles, which hasn't happened.

So not fool proof protection I'm afraid

[Swoop]

Saw this 60 minues edition where they do a take on movie piracy.

The director of fox says that people can get a movie in like 2 hours easy as cake.. hmmm nice conncetion he's got there.
"anybody in the world can make a perfect digital copy of our movies, and with ONE click spread it to thousands of people instantly" .. again i would LOVE his internet connection.

Recent article i read says that music industry sales gone down 20 % and piracy is to blame... hmm NOT possibly that they simply had a bad year with crappy releases not that many people wanted to buy ? ...

I'm getting fed up with all thoose music industry, movie industry ect blaming the worlds problems on piracy. They all act like piracy is something new.. SURPRISE it's NOT.  In the 60 minutes news report they also state everything like it's only recently full length movies have been released onto the internet, at filesize of 1 cd.
Try it's been around for more than 5 years...  so why is it all of a sudden such a big problem ?

How come all their loss in sales HAS to be piracy.. how about crappy productions people wont buy ?
Also i done beileve that although say 100 people download a movie and watch it.. if none of the 100 people had the opportunity to watch it for free.. i doubt that ALL of them would buy it... i mean come on.
Some movies that get downloaded would NEVER had given the companies any income simply because ppl didnt want to pay for them.. for free well there is nu loss, but for money.. no way!


Sorry for the long rant finished now hope i made a little sense

[smilodon]

If it's against the law it's against the law. And in a civilised society we can't choose which laws to obey and which not to. That being said I have no time for the music industry's whining.

Lots of people want to use the Net for obtaining music. If the industry fed that need they would make some money and have happy customers.

They buried their heads in the sand and said "There is no Internet...there is no Internet"

And then they wonder why people download it anyway.

People want to buy music on the Net. So sell them it you muppets!

[DarkAngel]

The main pirate in all this is kazza i do believe so much can be done on this and it isnt getting clamped down even though ive heard rumours of something. Ive seen many of these programs go under over legal wars and is kazaa gonna stick around as i use kazaa lite and its very useful.

[Tutonic]

Most people (I'm not talking about me, of course, that would imply that I download music illegaly.. ) who download MP3's do it because they realise that CD's are a rip off, and the artists get bugger all with most of the money going back to the recording studio. Maybe when the price of CD's come down more people will buy them

[DarkAngel]

And the only way cd prices will go down is if bootlegging stops and every1 buys origionals.

[Benny]

Originally posted by smilodon@Nov 12 2003, 11:25 PM
"There is no Internet...there is no Internet"

 

Internet? eh? where? I read about it but never dreamed it was true!

If someone didn't want to spend £15 on a CD filled with 2 decent tracks and 10 fillers then fair play. I bought 2 cds last week, one a best of that had 2 extras I didn't have and couldn't be harrised to download and the other a whim....I regret it.

This all goes back to another point, da rulez is da rulez. Break them and go to prison to meet bubba (or GFK - your choice). I don't agree or disagree, but in a society where all the rules were broken the social fabric would collapse and it would make my piles worse. In the meantime I'll stick to direct connect and kazaa lite

[FBG]

my partner works for a music licensing company so he cant exactly be seen to be downloading illegal music. After much searching on the internet, virgin, sony, hmv etc etc all had music download sites....all of them TANGOing crap.

These guys really haven't a clue. All the sites have search functionality and a variety of lables, so your not limited to britney crap, yet they've neglected the fact that you WANT TO LISTEN TO THE DAM MUSIC ON SOMETHING OTHER THAN THE DAM COMPUTER YOU DOWNLOAD IT TO!!!!!!! :angry:  :angry:

All sites use M$hafts crappy music licensing software which TANGOing sucks kangeroo and doesn't work half the bloody time.

Each site offers you the option of listen to music once, low credits, download music for multple listening, medium credits and download for burning to cd high credits. EXCEPT IT WONT DOWNLOAD THE BLOODY LICENSE TO ALLOW YOU TO BURN TO CD!!!!!

After 4 weeks of emails to support we still couldn't get the dam thing to burn to disc or transfere to MD. The whole system sucks, i mean which TANGOing moron decided it would be a good idea to stuff the license seperate from the actual wav/mp3 file and put it in some obscure place on your computer such that it means nothing. The whole system sucks. Really really really sucks and they wont get jack shit in revenue until they sort it out.

FUME

[A Twig]

I dload tracks to see if I like them. If i do I then go out and buy the CD. Nowt wrong with that - expecting people to buy a £15 album on the strangth of one single thats been released is a bit much IMHO

[smilodon]

Originally posted by A Twig@Nov 13 2003, 05:37 PM
I dload tracks to see if I like them. If i do I then go out and buy the CD. Nowt wrong with that - expecting people to buy a £15 album on the strangth of one single thats been released is a bit much IMHO

Still illegal though. Lets hope the RIAA don't read this forum or you're bang to rights and looking at a long stretch in chokey me old mukker