Power of the aspects

Jesung · February 22, 2012, 06:18:26 PM

So it looks like the 10% nerf is coming in, in next weeks maintenance (29/02/12)

microid · February 22, 2012, 08:37:05 PM

aaaaaand ofcourse we are gonna use it. we need more nerfs lts crank it up to 100% and take away allllllll the challenge

Azunai · February 22, 2012, 09:47:42 PM

The challenge is getting it done before any nerfs are available imo. Not utilizing it when it is, would just be cutting ourselves in the foot, missing out on gear and such.

Jesung · February 23, 2012, 12:04:00 AM

Quote from: Azunai;345092The challenge is getting it done before any nerfs are available imo. Not utilizing it when it is, would just be cutting ourselves in the foot, missing out on gear and such.

You mean shooting ourselves in the foot? Never heard 'cutting'

Silly Dutch.

TeaLeaf · February 23, 2012, 08:25:32 AM

Yep Az is correct. Our stated aim as a guild has always been to defeat encounters *before* they get nerfed. Our hard work in Dragon Soul has rewarded us with a clearance on Normal mode and several Heroic kills before the nerfs hit, so we have done well - and well above average in progression terms.

Miicroid, I know you're against nerfs, but the bottom line is that they are there and part of the game. Our challenge should always be to see just how far we can get before the nerfs get patched in. Beyond that then we know we're on the slippery slope towards the end of the expansion and have a limited time to complete the rest of the content.

As for the challenge, I think you'll agree that with almost 100 wipes on a nerfed HC Zon'ozz and multiple early wipes on HC Hagara that the challenge is absolutely still there!

hubbah · February 23, 2012, 08:55:25 AM

And to add to that, its not the healthpool that or dmg from the boss thats been stopping us from killing bosses. It has always been someting a boss does, a mechanic and this is not nerfed at all.
So this will only shave off a few 1 / 2 / 3% wipes and quicker clear on farm bosses

Im not botherd at all ^^

Azunai · February 23, 2012, 09:35:49 AM

Quote from: Jesung;345101You mean shooting ourselves in the foot? Never heard 'cutting' Silly Dutch.

The Dutch is cutting yourself in the fingers. So this is a hybrid :-P

microid · February 23, 2012, 05:55:53 PM

also wanna point out that theres only 5 weeks between the nerfs whit this rate MOP should come out in late may or else they are really gonna nerf DS to a point that all bosses will be like free kills.

and yes teal its part of the game at least this time they did it right. the progressive nerfing is alot better than one single big nerf. and also now we can turn it off. like ragnaross in FL i personally never killed HC rag. and now that has been taken away forever. =( even if the nerfed one is still hard. i cant even try the original. this should not be so. DS nerfs has been done right.

Azunai · February 23, 2012, 06:25:59 PM

No way that MoP is going to come out late may. Beta hasn't even started yet :-) September-ish I say, if not later. But the nerfs will stop at 30% if I'm not mistaken, like ICC, and they will come each month like Blizz announced beforehand ;-)

Jesung · February 23, 2012, 08:54:05 PM

Quote from: Azunai;345185No way that MoP is going to come out late may. Beta hasn't even started yet :-) September-ish I say, if not later. But the nerfs will stop at 30% if I'm not mistaken, like ICC, and they will come each month like Blizz announced beforehand ;-)

I say July/August but that is wishful thinking. I think Blizz want to avoid another ICC where it was a year of it. And this time it would be even worse as there won't be anything else after DS like Ruby Sanctum.

microid · February 24, 2012, 12:46:33 AM

at 30% nerf i can solo DS. if they really go that low im gonna start drinking beer!!!

Jesung · February 24, 2012, 01:23:43 AM

Quote from: microid;345214at 30% nerf i can solo DS. if they really go that low im gonna start drinking beer!!!

I thought we all did that during raids anyway

Azunai · February 24, 2012, 08:40:52 AM

By that time we'll be done anyway methinks. Although I'm not sure what increments they'll go by. Anyway, the nerf will have the same effect as the T11/12 one in the end, it just gets applied over time.

Slush · February 24, 2012, 10:33:49 AM

Quote from: Azunai;345223By that time we'll be done anyway methinks. Although I'm not sure what increments they'll go by. Anyway, the nerf will have the same effect as the T11/12 one in the end, it just gets applied over time.

Yeh, Torgen speaks the truth. Blizz will probably use this way in the future aswell. As they now well in advance are saying "We will nerf over time", the "Omg, nerf eazymode qq!??" complaint threads on forums will drop radically.

TeaLeaf · February 24, 2012, 11:58:07 AM

Personally, I don't care too much about the nerf, I'm more concerned with drop rates of specific class items. Ignoring Miicro (because he is new and still gearing) and Incendia (because he is here less than most of us hence gets fewer drops), the worst geared in RGT are:

i396 Puja
i396 Teaell
i395 Jesung
i394 Amberleigh
i393 Tessy

Unsurprisingly 4 of those 5 belong to the "Paladin/Warlock/Priest" token group. Blizz, cummon man, fix the damn drop rates. :angry:

Everyone else is 397-402, with both melee dps at 401. Smokin!