BattleField 3 patch tomorrow... ...For the PS3!

[ArithonUK]

PC version? "Some time soon"

There's a whole thread (mostly nerd-rage) on BattleBlog forums, but this post from Jack Sparrow covered the salient points...

Now that my 4 hour ban has expired I guess I get to chime back in..

I  helped incite the riot that occurred earlier and I'm guilty of spamming  the hell out of these forums but I didn't do it because I was 'bored'. I  did it because I am angry. Yes bro, imad and nerdraged all over the  place.

The fact of the matter is I paid money for this game and  while it's playable and quite good, it still has a ****ton of problems  that need to either be balanced or fixed. I honestly feel like I bought a  beta and while DICE has announced some upcoming fixes, 'soon' just  doesn't cut it for me. Never have I played a game with so many glaring  problems that have been left to persist for so long with no obvious or  spoken game plan to solve them. Unacceptable!

DICE has lied to  us time and time again and it's not right! 'Soonâ,,¢' is not an answer. How  hard is it for a company that has made SOOO much money to hire ONE  person to be a go-between the devs and the public? You know, someone  with a dedicated role of keeping the consumers informed on what's  happening instead of trying to placate us all the time with 'Soonâ,,¢'.

I said this before and I'll say it again... BF3 is a good game...but it could be a great game if DICE/EA cared about it a little further than how to milk it for even more money without actually fixing it.

I  can only speak for myself in this matter, but now knowing how DICE/EA  conduct themselves, I can honestly say I will not hesitate to resist the  urge to buy whatever they produce from now on. I know it'll more than  likely be only 3/4 complete and fixes will not be put in any kind of  timely fashion.

Keep treating your customers this way DICE/EA  and I'm sure I wont be the only one who cringes at the thought of  supporting you when you obviously do not care about supporting me.

Who am I kidding..I typed all this for nothing.  

EA and DICE are more interested in tarting the console versions and putting out nickel & dime DLC, than fixing the glaring bugs and game instability that exists in the current version. It would be nice to go one evening where the game didn't shudder, gasp and quit to the desktop. Is that too much to ask a company whose every game I've bought?

[TheDvEight]

A Game series which was made for the PC Which is now more focused at the PS3's And Xbox's of our time not good....like Jack Sparrow and many others it would be nice if this game ran properly before they tried to make a fast buck out of the console kids....

[Tutonic]

I understand the annoyance but..

A Game series which was made for the PC Which is now more focused at the PS3's And Xbox's

Really? I could have sworn it was developed at the same time across all platforms.

This is the cold, uncaring nature of PC development I'm afraid - it takes a hell of alot more QA to produce a PC patch than a console one. You'd be the first to moan if they released the PC patch before it was properly tested.

DICE have a pretty appalling record when it comes to post-release patches, which stretches all the way back to BF1942 when they would regularly break the game by releasing badly tested updates. I'm happy to wait until they get it right.

Of course, if they release the PC patch and the PC version is still b0rked then I shall be joining the frothing mobs and rightly so

[ArithonUK]

Really? I could have sworn it was developed at the same time across all platforms.

Only since Bad Company ( a console-only title). Prior to that BattleField (BF1942, BF Vietnam, BF2, BF2142) was a PC only series, which has suffered greatly from its developer going "multi-platform". Jack of all trades, master of none...

[Tutonic]

Only since Bad Company ( a console-only title). Prior to that BattleField (BF1942, BF Vietnam, BF2, BF2142) was a PC only series, which has suffered greatly from its developer going "multi-platform". Jack of all trades, master of none...

Oh I wasn't disagreeing with that point - spreading their development & QA across all platforms is always going to hurt. I was just a little surprised that some people view BF3 as a 'PC-focused' title. It's not, so your expectations should be adjusted accordingly.

[ArithonUK]

You probably weren't aware, but DICE hyped the game as "a PC led development". Any expectations we had, were from being told by the developer that the game was primarily a PC title. We then got screwed when they changed their minds, in order to rush the console versions to market.

We said originally that the PC was the lead SKU of the game, but in  mid-production we switched to console as lead platform to make sure we  could get all the versions done for release.

I fail to see why, with unconnected platforms, the PC patch can't be released first and the rest can wait until hell freezes over for Microsoft and SONY to sign off on the console updates. PC patches are easier to build and release, because no third party has to sign off on them.

Remember, we're not asking for a free lunch, we're just asking for the bugs in the game to be fixed. I don't care how powerful the USAS may be, you can't do anything with it, if the game keeps dumping to the desktop with "an unknown error(0)"!

While the game is prettier to look at, it is a less accomplished title with fewer features than it's predecessors. Team chat, the commander, squads and classes have all been removed or simplified to make the game "console friendly". This has NOT added anything to the game and taken away a lot. Including LAN support, the CORE reason for groups like dMw existing. That's nothing to cheer about.

It's sad; because the series and the developer have lost their way, forgetting who got them where they are now.

[DuVeL]

DICE have a pretty appalling record when it comes to post-release patches, which stretches all the way back to BF1942 when they would regularly break the game by releasing badly tested updates. I'm happy to wait until they get it right.

Which they have continued upon BF3, first the game works, they put out a patch and all is borked.
It will be interesting to see how the update goes when it hits our "beloved" PCversion...

[Tutonic]

You've kinda proved my point there Arithon. Yes, they mislead many but at the end of the day they openly stated that the PC wasn't any kind of 'exclusive' lead platform - so having expectations of it receiving preferential treatment are misplaced.

If you don't like it, then stay away from the big 'AAA' blockbuster titles. Consoles have changed the game, and there isn't any turning back from that. There are loads of PC-focused developers out there, it's just that DICE aren't one of them anymore.

I fail to see why, with unconnected platforms, the PC patch can't be  released first and the rest can wait until hell freezes over for  Microsoft and SONY to sign off on the console updates. PC patches are  easier to build and release, because no third party has to sign off on  them.

That's not true - PC patches take many orders of magnitude longer to develop than that of a console patch. The QA process drags everything down, they have to test against a wider range of hardware/software combinations which simply takes time. Yes the consoles have to go through an accreditation process, but it's still shorter than testing for a PC product.

Added to that, is the fact that the DICE development team for BF3 will almost certainly have been down-sized (or moved onto other projects) once the product is shipped. This is standard for just about any game developer - the team producing the patches is going to be tiny in comparison to the original production team.

If you were a PS3/Xbox player and the PC patch got released first no doubt it would put your nose out of joint. These are three equal platforms in the developers eyes.

Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to defend DICE because they've clearly dropped the ball on BF3 in a big way but lambasting them for releasing a patch that was obviously quicker to produce first is just daft.

[Snokio]

I have to admit, I don't have many issues with the game itself, Origin on the other hand....

[kregoron]

I have to admit, I don't have many issues with the game itself, Origin on the other hand....

I gotta agree with Snokio, BF3 is quite solid for me, but Origin on the other hand.. oh dear

[ArithonUK]

You've kinda proved my point there Arithon.

No, their statement was that the PC was the lead platform, by their own admission they then reneged on that promise. Which is the opposite of what you're saying, which is they didn't break any promise. But they did, which is why people are annoyed.

[Blunt]

From @Battlefield:

The ~1.6 GB PC update for BF3 will start rolling out at around 9AM UTC / 11 AM CET March 29

[TheDvEight]

From @Battlefield:

Cheers mate small patch then :lmfao:

[kregoron]

YAy another quadzillion gig patch...

[DannagE]

Beep beep! We have horns!

YAY \o/

1.5GB patch. Info here on updates - http://blogs.battlefield.com/2012/03/beep-beep-battlefield-3-update-goes-live-on-pc-tomorrow-improved-commo-rose-and-minimap-lots-of-fixes-and-new-shortcut-items-live/