Merging the raid groups

[Grimnar]

With the lack of people and amount of people that will have to go away during the up coming months ( exams and vacation ) and the lack of response to recruiting message I think we should consider merging the groups. We have at the moment 8 active members in RG, with Varg, Krek'la and Imhotep expecting to miss alot of nights the next month. I am not sure about BG but I believe they have 9 active members and can expect similar decay during the next months.

We have too many players for 1 group but it is better then 2 groups that can't play. I am also expecting that at least some people might stop playing completly because of Diablo III ( I am not planning on it but it might happen for me atleast ). This would also require that multiple people might have to respec since we would have too many healers at least.

The best way to organize such a merger I think is to keep it on 3 nights, with 1 night set specifically for gearing up players missing gear( Tuesdays, hard mode EV and Karragga's ) while the other 2 would be used for Progression. People should not be expecting to be in on 3 runs and most people will only do 1-2 runs a week as before. Instead of a roster for each group as it is now we would put up a roster for each weekday with what people are generally available those nights. This would keep people on the nights that they currently have operations if they want but they could switch to any 2 days or even all 3 if they want.

We should have enough content available at the moment to have something to do on all 3 days.

http://www.deadmen.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?35764-Merging-the-raid-groups  posted by Drazila

So what you think about this?

I think that he is correct about loosing more people, although BG is k for now if Demi likes it ofcourse. But yeah things are not really comforting at this time, BG has to take a step back as it needs to gear up a new player maybe even 2 when toby hits 50 (hurry up:narnar:)
RG has a dps problem which is running with 3 tanks and 3 healers. But shown as last raid, at one time they had 3 tanks avail but a few hours later they had none.

I also think that people are not going to show up because they lost the feeling for the game, it might be it might not be the case. But for myself i can't really blame them, yes ofcourse you let your team down but it also counts for you to have fun.

But raiding 3 days i don't know about that, sure it will be a bit needed in the beginning as BG is behind in gear. But i for one won't be able to keep that up with raiding 3 days a week. I already have some problems raiding 2 days a week as that takes alot of focus/energy. (yes leading a group aint easy:narnar:)


So what is your look at this?

[BrotherTobious]

It is idea, it would mean that we would still be running ops, it would mean that people can still progress and when we have enough people then we can split them again.

I dont think people would be expected to OP 3 days running, I dont think that would be a good thing as people would be burnt out.

I would expect the Leading for the OPs to be shared among all the OP leaders.  

I am not sure how the rest or RG and BG would take this as some of the RG wont want to go back and do normals all the time they ok there is some hardmode but some of the players will probably wont run unless it is HM or Progression.  This is my main worry about this.

But to be fair I am not sure how we can move forward until we get people back, or recuitment picks up.

It needs to be ironed out the details but it might a something we can try.

[Gortex]

I think for the time being this is something that my have to happen if we are to keep people interested in playing the game. I agree for the not 3 nights as I think this is to much and we don't want to over burden people who may not want to keep playing or are thinking of stopping.

I know we have a few players getting close to 50 who will want to join in our ops and that being Penfold and Tobious. Pen I went over Bounty Hunter ranged DPS at the lan and showed him rotation and how to raid with what I do. I think BG is going to be generally ok but it will be RG that will suffer if we dont merge.

I would suggest one night being progresion on hard mode with the best of BG helping out and then a normal run the second night with some of RG helping should the need be there. This will also help with clearing ops and getting the gear for new players but also help with training peeps in raids so that they can also join RG should the need arrise.

[Grimnar]

BG has a few players incomming, Toby, Pen. Jamoe, maybe even Ahlyssa (that is a big maybe)  and Demi just joined BG but hasn't been in an ops yet.

Also a problem i see with this is that BG is now at a point to enter hardmodes (if we have the players....) and i know that some of the current players arn't happy with stepping backwords. I can't really blame them but with the current situation we don't really have a choice.

I don't really mind about what is going to happen as long as the group as fun



So the idea would be:

The groups merge into 1 group for as long as it is needed, with 1 night as gear up run and the other a progress night with the best setup avail.

If we all agree on that then we should bring it as quickly as possible over to the ops leaders to work it out for next week.

[BrotherTobious]

Yeah I think it is the best for us but with the understanding it is tempory

I will be on tomorrow night nearly there.

No you can't book your room yet.

[BrotherTobious]

So to confrim we want to run it 2 nights a week not 3, 1 night to help people get gear up and learn and one to go HM /NM progression depending on numbers.  I think 2 to start and then go to 3 if there is a call.

It is to be only tempory till we have both teams up with regular numbers.

To be run by OP leaders from both groups.

With as fair a rotation as possible.

Guys your views ASAP please