Awp

[Gortex]

It was mentioned the other day to me during a game that the AWP is frowned on as a choice of weapon chosen and being used by a player.

This then made me realise if there are any other weapons which are not to be used, and if this is the case how are we meant to try and complete the achievements for this and any other gun.

If it is generally to be banned then what is the feeling to one or two nights a week where these guns are accepted and where we can work on getting these achievements. I personally have not played much on public servers and from what I have experienced and read about they are not much fun in comparison to our private one and so would be loathed for this to be the only option available to me.

[DuVeL]

The AWP is allowed to be used when you're loosing by a count of 2 or more. Atleast that's what the old rule was.
I got my achievement while playing on our server with just me and Blunt on it, shooting some bots. Also played a bit against bots as you can create your own game in CS:GO.

The bad thing about the AWP is that it's one shot one kill.

HTH

[smilodon]

Why not have a gun night where everyone has to use a specific weapon. I'm sure there are simple setting changes that would allow players to never run low on money, so every round would be an AWP round for example. It would be more of a novelty but maybe it could be run once a week. This would remove the problem of one player owning a map with an AWP round after round, and might be a laugh as well. Plus people would get the achievements as well.

[KKND]

The AWP is allowed to be used when you're loosing by a count of 2 or more. Atleast that's what the old rule was.
I got my achievement while playing on our server with just me and Blunt on it, shooting some bots. Also played a bit against bots as you can create your own game in CS:GO.

The bad thing about the AWP is that it's one shot one kill.

HTH

Good placed shot with Scout it also kills you!!

[DuVeL]

Yes, but the AWP it doesn't matter where you hit.

[KKND]

There are even more rifles that comes close to one shot one kill....cant all ban them then the fun is gone....
In the past it was like one Cannon each team i dont know if you can set these things up on server config or so.. ore like when team reach 5 vs 5.....just some ideas...

[JonnyAppleSeed]

We used to also limit the semi auto sniper (forgot the name) as that was also overpowered ..... The problem with the awps come after a few rounds lost by the opposite team...The cash income was so low meaning they end up going head to head snipers v pistols and it soon gets very 1 sided till the next map change

Loads of beard stroking and head scratching and we ended up with the rule Duvel mentions above. It comes down to fair play and keeping the rounds even rather than winning the map
 
When you die from being shot in the toe 50 times one evening all will become clear :bigidea:

[Niel]

Nothign worse than public server AWP-fests..........i actually found dmw as a result of getting naffed off with the general state of public servers......and the "no-AWP unless your team is losing" was a wonderful thing to behold and for me a foundation of why the dmw servers were much more fun to play on. Keep the rule and enforce !!!

[TheDvEight]

Surely the Losing by 'x' amount of games/rounds rule should be good enough? It would seem a bit unfair allowing such a powerful gun on a full time basis/running nights where we are allowed to  use it/certain gun only night etc.



I personally don't really care which gun I use along as it shoots bullets.

[KKND]

Ban it prob solved no one can say i bought the wrong one or picked it up, but thats up to Blunt.

[TheDvEight]

I don't think it should be banned all together as I said I think if people respect the rule of if you're team is down my 'x' amount of rounds/games then use it when the advantage has gone change to a different weapon I don't think it's right banning it outright you may get me on you're team & I'm not very good at CS...where as other people are amazing(Duvel).

[kregoron]

• It is generally accepted within the CS community that the programmers have still got it wrong with the AWM. Compared to other sniper rifles available the AWM is still far too powerful within the CS physics model. Since the one of the December 2003 updates for Steam was issued, the Auto-Sniper is now also way too powerful and complained about widely within the CS community.
• TCS is primarily about tactical, team & objective-based CS. But it is also about ensuring good gameplay - this is why when you join the server you will often see one side with a few more players than the other. It's not accidental, it has been done to try to even up 'win' potential for both teams on a map that is biased towards one team, or where a group of better players are all on the same team.
  
• When you are on a map that has a bias (e.g. cs_siege), it is very easy for a single T to buy an AWM or Auto-Sniper and then control the entire game. This does not make for good gameplay. Put simply, the AWM or the Auto-Sniper with their mismatched physics model can ruin the game play on any number of maps.
• The Dead Men Walking community caters for a wide range of player abilities. On the right team and on the right map, a talented player with an AWM or Auto-Sniper can extinguish all game play. This is enjoyable for the sniper, but not for anyone else.
• The competition section of the Dead Men Walking clan regularly play in league matches (on average three times per week) and the AWM/Auto-Sniper is a weapon often used in these matches. It would therefore not be helpful to completely ban the AWM/Auto-Sniper on the server as it does stop the practice of a legitimate competition skill.
• "So can I use the AWM/Auto-Sniper or not?" Currently the answer is Yes, but with some qualification: You should not use the AWM/Auto-Sniper when it will significantly hinder gameplay.
• "What does that mean?" we hear you say. Well, the interpretation of this rule on the Dead Men Walking community servers has come to mean that nobody should use an AWM/Auto-Sniper where the winning team has a lead of less than 4 rounds. If a team has a 4 round or greater advantage, then the losing team COULD use the AWM/Auto-Sniper, BUT, very great thought should be given to whether this is the best way to rebalance the game.
  
• Often, rebalancing the numbers on each team will have better game play results than just spending your dollar$ on an AWM/Auto-Sniper. But YOU are the one in that position and YOU need to make that decision yourself. If you abuse the discretion allowed to you on this server then an Admin will firstly comment politely, then warn you politely, then kick you, politely of course :wink:
• For the sake of clarity, the above and all Dead Men Walking community members, whether it's your first visit to our community, a long-standing Member or an Admin, it still applies.

Those were the old TCS rules, but in general, the autosniper and AWM/AWP were banned.

[DuVeL]

@ Kreg, we later used the rule like I posted because in matches in ED we had opponents who used AWP's big time. I can't find the post atm but it's arround.

[KKND]

Yup indeed whe had pete.

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[Blunt]

My view:
AWP/AWM whatever you want to call it is still way over-powered, so should be not allowed.

Scout isn't a 1 shot kill so should still be allowed.

Some people are snipers by nature and I don't think we should take that element away from the game.

However...
 
we play in a TCS style and that often involves a team member being required to play a different role to the one they want.
In these situations they shouldn't buy a sniper rifle.

Teamwork!

Example: Office can be a 'rush em up' style game for the CT's, but if the T's are putting up a good defence, it can pay dividends to have a sniper shooting the T's from a distance to soften them up with a Scout.

No more than 1 sniper per team should be the rule, and if asked by your team or an admin NOT to snipe, then you should comply.