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Sneakytiger

Our clan is growing but can always do with more people ,come and have a try it's FTP so won't cost u anything ,and you might even like it.
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albert

Got my Trinitiy Warframe rigged up for Blessing duty (thanks Gorion for the link). I can now do 15 second blessings for the cost of 1 power unit assuming no power orb pickups (I regen 14 units per activation). That means about 400 Blessings in a row without an orb in sight. Add orbs then pretty much constant forever. That's not even with all the mods upped to max. The only issue is compared to Vauban, the defence point is chaos with attackers because they are free to roam around. But nobody loses any health.

One guy on a mobile defense mission said "guys is there a bug or something because I never lose any shield or health at all". I replied, just keeping you all safe with my Trinity laddy. Awesome fun.
Cheers, Bert

Gorion

Yep, now add desecration, and AoE's and we can say hello to wave 100 :)

We could still use a Vauban combined with Nova.  Pretty much required for late waves.
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albert

I was considering the challenges of long runs and the ammo issue was the only thing preventing us from reaching lvl 30 on the defense with the lvl12 Trinity yesterday. I'd say Nekros Nova/Saryn, Vauban/ Frost and Trinity would go a long way.

On the open maps like reactor defense Trinity would be a big help. The only thing stopping us would be our ability to kill them quick enough later on.

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Cheers, Bert

Gorion

Saryn's miasma doesn't scale to the extent of Nova.

At the moment it has a damage cap, so in the end quite useless for late waves.
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Gorion

Quote from: Gorion;381254Saryn's miasma doesn't scale to the extent of Nova.

At the moment it has a damage cap, so in the end quite useless for late waves.


Scratch that, found out some new stuff.  Quite viable with the right rare mods.
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Sneakytiger

Read some interesting info about nova's antimatter drop if u shoot into it the damage u do into it is multiplied once it explodes
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albert

#112
That was a good defence mission to lvl 30 yesterday lads. I fesl the only thing that was a challenge was we were running out of ammo.

Also for these missions we all need to bring our top weapons. Lvl 60 opposition needs a decent firepower! I recommend that everyone start making a high level side arm like the Despair or Stug, Acrid or Twin Gremlins. The aim should be to do nearly as much damage with the secondary weapon as we do with the primary so there is staying power in the defense or survival missions.

Also on the topic of mod sharing, I'm happy to share any spares I have. Quite a few have been swapped already but of course we all get drops day to day so I think if we start a thread where we list our spare rare or uncommon mods then others can check which they need. Of course you still need credits to pay the trade tax.

I think someone else needs to build a Vauban. I think having one in our defense missions lvl 30 with rare power mods not only controls the mobs but it's easier to headshot enemies when they are stationary and ammo depletes slower. We also need another Nekros. Trinity I am just starting to get to grips with, another one of these would be good as well.
Cheers, Bert

Badchi

QuoteI fesl the only thing that was a challenge was we were running out of ammo.
Easily solvable by group ammo restore kits. And mutators.

QuoteLvl 60 opposition needs a decent firepower!
Yeah, I went pats 70 mins yesterday on ODS. They were around 130lvl. Hard nuts to crack, even small ones.

QuoteI think someone else needs to build a Vauban.
Well, you always got me ;-)
Got everyone besides Saryn now... which eludes me shamelessly.

albert

Quote from: Badchi;381282Easily solvable by group ammo restore kits. And mutators.


Yeah, I went pats 70 mins yesterday on ODS. They were around 130lvl. Hard nuts to crack, even small ones.


Well, you always got me ;-)
Got everyone besides Saryn now... which eludes me shamelessly.

Of course, it would be good to actually pick a challenge to try out with you mate, we've never played together before. We're all lower level so you'd probably end up needing to let us end things earlier than the hour mark :doh: .

We were trying to find a tier 3 defense mission to get hold of a few of the rarer mods, Barrel Diffusion and Continuity but there's so few Corpus defense missions after the Operations wiped a load out over the weekend. The thing that furstrates me is every checkpoint gives say a Tower 3 Key, but you continue on and lose that key rather than stock them up as the end reward. There's no motivation to keep fighting. I think survival is the way forward but I'm not sure these mods drop in survival missions. I think my best ODS was round 25 but at it wasn't very tactical.
Cheers, Bert

Badchi

**** yeah! Made it past 80 mins today on ODS!

Somewhere close to the end:


QuoteOf course, it would be good to actually pick a challenge to try out with you mate, we've never played together before. We're all lower level so you'd probably end up needing to let us end things earlier than the hour mark
nah, the secret behind good run in ODS is much rad and blast damage, Nova with maxed in power and range Molecular Prime, good Vauban with good ranged and long lasting bastille, nekros's desecrate and trin with maxed link. So nothing really tricky if you that kind of team =)

Gorion

Quote from: Badchi;381282Got everyone besides Saryn now... which eludes me shamelessly.

Her systems blueprint is a pain to drop, I got mine after the 20th or so run.

As for Vauban, forget him.  Bastille is useless at high levels due to enemy CC limits.  Loses more of his potential with Trinity infinite invulnerability.  Beyond 40 waves, Nova + Mag combo is the stuff.  Nekros isn't needed with ammo mutation and AoE grenade weapons.  This advice is coming from a player who's clan achieved 1st in two leader-board categories last month, and able to reach past wave 85 in Outer Terminus with the Nova + Mag combination (No Nekros).

Also, Ember specced right can reach 29k damage with a single pop, costing 155 energy.  That's 900dmg per tick for 33 sec.  Miasma ain't bad aswell, now costing 25 energy a pop, once I get Focus and some other ones it I'll be hardcore.  What I need are the Dual Ichors with blind rage, focus and contagion will deal 300% weapon damage per attack (Everything <40 will die in less than 3 hits).
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Badchi

QuoteHer systems blueprint is a pain to drop
Exactly. I got like over 9000 helmets =)

Quoteto enemy CC limits.
Do you mean quantity?
Up to 27. If you allow more of them to stack up, something's not right ;-)
(and we're talking about infested enemies, Bastille is second to useless when it comes to everyone else)

Quote29k damage with a single pop, costing 155 energy. That's 900dmg per tick for 33 sec
Which is like a spit in the face for some mobs, while direct damage from some guns may easily give you 20k dmg tick (you can see rather casual 39k hit on the screenshot below).

My point is: late game's all about crowd control, not damaging abilities.

Gorion

Quote from: Badchi;381290Which is like a spit in the face for some mobs, while direct damage from some guns may easily give you 20k dmg tick (you can see rather casual 39k hit on the screenshot below).

My point is: late game's all about crowd control, not damaging abilities.


I am talking about Outer Terminus.

Yes, which Is why Nova + Mag combo is needed.  With that, you don't really need CC.


Re Bastille, even at wave 25 ish in tower defence, it wasn't picking up all the mobs.  Now consider more than double the wave count.  Don't get me wrong, it is a useful ability yet after a certain point, which is quite early, it loses it's effectiveness.

Re Ember, 29k damage per head isn't bad, especially combined with nova.  Of course the ideal set-up changes depending on enemy types, keeping in mind that playing defensive will only get you up to a certain point.
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Badchi

#119
QuoteI am talking about Outer Terminus.
Well in that case I'm not much of an opponent in this discussion, since my progress in T3 is rather mediocre (ever since I got me all the loot I wanted just stopped going there) ;-)


Hey, I've always wanted to know how Loki's and Nyx's ult work together in late game. Any thoughts on the subject?