TeaLeaf ?

[smilodon]

Did ya know...I bet ya did  

http://www.bb4mk.org/bt_long_reach_trial.htm

[TeaLeaf]

Thanks for that, but as you rightly suspected I already know about BB4MK.  
And am a member.
And occasionally meet up with them at the Swan freehouse, a particularly fine local hostelry.

Unfortunately the current message from BT is:  

"You can't have broadband".  

Me and 40% of the 'new' town of Milton Keynes are stuck on good old narrowband for the forseeable future.  :angry:

TL.

[Anonymous]

Originally posted by TeaLeaf@Dec 14 2003, 08:44 AM
Unfortunately the current message from BT is:  

"You can't have broadband".  

What do they know! I would get it anyway if I were you

[TeaLeaf]

Funny thing is that my business is just about to sign a lease to take over a property in a hundreds of years old market town (Towcester for those that want to know) and BT says that in yee olde town we can have a 2Mbps BB connection.  But back in high-tech MK we get nada  

TL.

[Benny]

You aren't taking the hint from the world, that Milton Keynes is in fact Royston Vasey and you should leave before it's too late....no broadband? Even Rotherham has broadband, run I tell you, run

[BigFatCat]

Maybe MK broadband is suffering from the same sort of "frenzy" that Franchise FC suffer from? Mwuahahahahaha. :lmfao:

Seriously, isn't MK phone cabled with aluminium, not copper? Doesn't that affect the services?

[Benny]

Get a drill, a torch and some rolled up tin foil. Break into the miles of dark fibre that's buried under your feet TL, fight the borgouise (sp?)

[BigFatCat]

Originally posted by Benny@Dec 15 2003, 11:19 AM
fight the borgouise (sp?)

Some sort of French casserole, innit?

[Liberator]

Originally posted by Benny@Dec 15 2003, 09:05 AM
You aren't taking the hint from the world, that Milton Keynes is in fact Royston Vasey and you should leave before it's too late....no broadband? Even Rotherham has broadband, run I tell you, run

Wotcha mean 'Even Rotherham' whats wrong with Rotherham!

 :angry:

[Benny]

Nuttink, I spent the last 6 months of my life living near Wentworth bout 20 minutes away.

I loved it, especially when my boy (10) was told to 'fu(k off back down south where you belong' by some other parent.  The majority of it was cool though...except I couldn't get broadband!

[Liberator]

Ooh! Now, Wentworth is a different matter!

 

I'm in Maltby (at least for the last six years! (moved back to Rotherham after 5 years in sunny Glasgow)) and its the area that 'does' have electricity!  

We have broadband now!

Thats two strings to the paper cup isn't it!  :unsure:

Your son just got the traditional Rotherham welcome, you need to buy the 'Shandy drinker to God country' translation book!

   

[TeaLeaf]

Originally posted by BigFatCat@Dec 15 2003, 10:15 AM
Maybe MK broadband is suffering from the same sort of "frenzy" that Franchise FC suffer from? Mwuahahahahaha. :lmfao:

Seriously, isn't MK phone cabled with aluminium, not copper? Doesn't that affect the services?

MK has a number of problems that mean that vast swathes of the peeps here can't get BB.

• When they cabled MK they ordered enough copper to do the whole place, but midway through the MK job some of the other parts of the UK ran out of their own cable and MK's copper got moved to another job.
• The budget got cut for the following financial year and they bought cheaper aluminium to complete the job (Al does not maintain signal integrity as well as copper, hence the BB reach is much shorter over an Al core).
• MK thought it was future-proofing by cabling part of the place with optical fibre.
• MK is built around a grid system of roads with (for the first time in the UK), special underground ducting running alongside the grid roads.  This sounds great until you realise that when they first laid the cable not all of the grid roads were built, so rather than waiting and laying the cable on the shortest final grid route, BT laid the cable immediately and ran it round whichever grid roads were already built to get it back to the exchange.  This means that many homes have several extra kilometres of cable in their local loop, putting them beyond even the 'extended-reach' BB trials.
• BT thought that a little place like MK wouldn't need that many exchanges, so the average cable run is long to start with.
• With all the moving of Cu and Al and the unbuilt grid roads, combined with BT's unique ability to accurately record the work undertaken and the BT engineers ability to completely inaccurately follow the routing maps even if the grid road *was* there, means that BT have not got a piggin clue what cable they have in which ducts around MK.  So don;t even ask them to recable, cos they would not know where to start.
• Don't even think about mentioning that MK is an NTL franchise and should therefore be able to get cable BB.  The local cable TV franchise was one of the first in the UK and was originally owned by......wait for it.....BT.   When the European Commission told them to dump their TV franchises as a trade for some other media investments they made, the cable TV franchises were sold.  But they put them up at a ridiculous price and they didn't sell for about 4 years.  When they did sell it was to NTL, who probably paid too much for the underinvested BT cable TV network and with NTL being short of cash for the foreseeable future we are stuck with an antiquated cable TV system that delivers analogue satellite programming (that's right, no digital TV) and no BB.

There, I think that about summarises the MK BB problem, is that enough?  :angry:

TL.

[Anonymous]

Originally posted by TeaLeaf@Dec 17 2003, 07:12 AM
There, I think that about summarises the MK BB problem, is that enough? :angry:

Me  apologises to TL for being a problem. Me slinks away quietly weeping  :byesad:

[Benny]

Originally posted by Liberator@Dec 16 2003, 10:48 PM
Ooh! Now, Wentworth is a different matter!

 

I'm in Maltby (at least for the last six years! (moved back to Rotherham after 5 years in sunny Glasgow)) and its the area that 'does' have electricity!  

We have broadband now!

Thats two strings to the paper cup isn't it!  :unsure:

Your son just got the traditional Rotherham welcome, you need to buy the 'Shandy drinker to God country' translation book!

   

All you have is watered down beer up there! f'eh, I've not touched a shandy yet, 2 common misconceptions, we drink shandy and we support Man U.

Oh the few spoil it for the many!

Let's just laugh at TL instead!  

[BigFatCat]

Originally posted by TeaLeaf@Dec 17 2003, 07:12 AM
Don't even think about mentioning that MK is an NTL franchise :angry:

TL.

Sorry Chief, was merely pouring scorn on the other franchise up at the Hokey Cokey Stadium.

I sympathise with all those denied broadband by antiquated communications infrastructure and telcos putting profit before us bandwidth whores.
Brethren, let us pray.

Our Bandwidth, which art in routers
Hallowed be thy ping
Thy broadband comes
it must be done
in MK and the North

Amen