MISC Hull Series concept sale Friday 24 April

[albert]

Ah I only saw the graph yesterday. I thought it was released early enough to to get a decent innings on Friday.

I have to say if the C was 50 Euro less I would have bought one. I've totally lost my bearings on price comparisons with other ships now there is tax showing up. It's a killer in Holland at 21%

[Obsydian]

There does seem a massive disparity now between crew requirements.   Hull E has 153k cargo units and needs 5 people, whereas the little old Banu needs 8 people to haulk just 6k cargo units.  Go figure.

When contracted, the Hull E is actually smaller than the Merchantman, which I think answers the crew figures. That and the fact that the stats for the MM are likely to change, so we may see a coming together of the stats.

Ben did say that they were pitching the MM to be between the Hull C and Hull D, so the 6000 of the MM vs the 4800 of the C and the 21600 of the D seems to fit that, and I am expecting the cargo capacity of the MM to go up by the time it makes it in-engine.

They have said that the D is aimed at mid-sized orgs and the E at large org's, and that both would require fighter escorts because they are effectively loot piñatas and won't make it through lawless space unscathed.

[TeaLeaf]

They have said that the D is aimed at mid-sized orgs and the E at large org's, and that both would require fighter escorts because they are effectively loot piñatas and won't make it through lawless space unscathed.

I'm assuming we should have a Class D then!  

[Gorion]

We probably won't need these with the amount of MMs, Constellations and them miner ships.

For such a small org, we already have loads of cargo space.

[OldBloke]

We probably won't need these with the amount of MMs, Constellations and them miner ships.

Since when has 'need' affected our buying choices :flirty:

[Galatoni]

Aye. To be fair, what we need is pilots! Heck, i'll lend my (fully insured!) ship to anyone if we can get some good use out of it!

[Obsydian]

Quick update regarding cargo sizes compadre to the other ships, especially the Merchantman...

The existing stats are in the old FU units, and need to be divide by 4 to get the true size in the new SCU units.

That makes the Merchantman have only 1500 SCUs which further adds to my expectation that it will be increased.

Anyway, so one on Reddit has posted this graph that compares the cargo sizes of all of the ships as they currently stand.
http://i.imgur.com/2PruNSm.jpg

[TeaLeaf]

That was the bit that was exacerbating my worries.  Tiny compared to D and being more crew.  

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[Justin Tolerable]

Hello people!  Long time no speak - sorry about that  Real life, getting in the way again.

I've popped in as I'm deciding on one of these.  I kind of like the Hull B as a smaller, easier to handle cargo runabout.  Then again, the C is tempting.  Is anyone actually picking one of these up?

[TeaLeaf]

I'm guessing Obsydian has (from his question on the other thread) and I'm considering a Hull D as insurance against the MM not being sufficiently increased in capacity.

I think the Hull E is simply out of reach for us as an org, unless it is dedicated to 'alliance' tasks.

[Obsydian]

No, not got anything yet, still pondering.

The thing about the C, D and E is that they are all station to station, and, due to their size, may possibly need multiple courier contracts to fill the space available. This could end up being a logistical nightmare.

I think the E is way too big for us as an org, even if devoted to hauling org assets, and things would probably be easier (and maybe safer) if split between a number of smaller ships.

The A and B could be used for ferrying cargo between planetside and station (where no space elevator exists) as well as between planets directly, so appear to be the more versatile craft.

But something about the D and E that just makes me want to get them....aaaargh!

Anyway, has everyone seen the size comparison video by Voon? It's an eye opener that's for sure...
[video=youtube_share;2GEGyBgZ8Ko]http://youtu.be/2GEGyBgZ8Ko[/video]

[Gorion]

Well, what's the point of using A/B to ferry down stuff when we could use a Taurus/MM/Caterpillar.

All these just the Taurus has less space than a B.  Plus they better equipment in general?

Honestly, there is no point in spending money on these.  Remember that the big ones cost less to buy versus the value of the carried cargo.

[Obsydian]

Well, there's the cost of the ship: the B is much cheaper than a Caterpillar or a merchantman.
Then there's the crew requirements: the B is a single seater.
Fuel costs...just guessing here, but I'd say that the B uses much less fuel than the others.
Scalability: due to the cheapness of the ships, and the solo nature of them, you could easily get half a dozen pilots with Bs to ferry cargo and they would do it far quicker and cheaper than with either a Caterpillar or Merchantman.

So, I think they probably are worth investing in myself.

[Galatoni]

I think the real issue here is safety. These ships are incredibly vulnerable. Plus they're not as modular as some

[TeaLeaf]

If anyone is going to buy a Hull please let me know.  I have a discount coupon still to use and it knocks 15% off the price.   It would mean me buying and then gifting your ship to you, but I can only use the coupon once and it's good for up to circa £600 of ships, so it seems sensible to only use it on a batch of ships rather than for single ships.