Faster than a speeding 9800XT?

[TeaLeaf]

:lol: I almost posted that this morning - it dropped overnight!  But I but a £10 saving was below my minimum posting threshold  

Let's hope the prices start toppling down in the immediate future.......

TL.

[smite]

Originally posted by TeaLeaf@Mar 5 2004, 08:33 PM
:lol: I almost posted that this morning - it dropped overnight!  But I but a £10 saving was below my minimum posting threshold  

Let's hope the prices start toppling down in the immediate future.......

TL.

I will have it before the LAN i just want it cheaper

[Dingo]

Our intrepid reporters have been awake for the last 72 hours trying to break into both nVidia and AMD offices to bring you, the interested reader, the latest breaking news on the battle of the Titans...................and this just in!!


WE CAN NOW confirm that Nvidia will have two versions of the NV40 chip once it is ready to show it to the world.
As is now traditional, Nvidia will have one extremely expensive card that will cost about â,¬/$499. This card is expected to be faster clocked and it will have faster memory as well.

The memory target sits close to the 600MHz range but it's still being tested for the right speed. As previously suggested, the card will use GDDR 3 memory which consumes less power and runs cooler then DDR 2.

The NV40 non ultra, amateur version is going to be clocked lower but we don’t have any details how slower yet. The price will be around â,¬/$299.

Both boards will use similar memory configurations but we suspect that Nvidia might offer a 128 bit version of the card.




whilst across the city our erstwhile colleauges bring us this

The DDR 1 version of ATI cards with R420 chip is codenamed Skateboard here, and now it's the right time to reveal what the Olympic Snowboard codename means.

This is the most detailed batch of information that we've manage to get since this card is getting close to its announcement, but as we said it most likely won't be announced at SnowBIT as previously planned.

R420XT is the high end card â€" the fastest one in the class - where XT stands for extreme performance and it will rock at around 500MHz for the GPU and around 1000MHz for the memory. Bear in mind that those are preliminary results that might vary. This means that ATI plans to get the cards on these speeds.

The printed circuit board (PCB) will be a 10 layer design and the memory on this high end card will be GDDR 3 8Mx32 8 pieces of memory. The card is AGP 4X/ 8X.



............that's it, er yes, that is it................okay, back to bed, come on, all of you!!......big day tomorrow!!  :wacko:

[Dingo]

NO, WAIT, DON'T GO YET!!


..........and this just in on the telex........


NVIDIA'S NV40 is not going to be just fast in shaders and pixels, it will have some additional features that will be interesting to anybody that messes with Video.
The video capabilities of NV40 are quite something.

It seems that all NV4X generation of cards will feature very attractive video options.

Nvidia wants to promote NV4X generation of chips as the ones with high quality video, complete and ready for HDTV and PVR.

High quality video will brought motion adaptive de-interlacing, high quality scaling and filtering, good old video de-blocking and integrated TV encoder.

As for HDTV, Nvidia claims Transport stream handling, HDTV output (720p, 1080p, 480p CGMS) and HDCP - High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection as well as HDMI High-Definition Multimedia Interface support.

The PVR part is the most interesting as Nvidia claims that the NV4X generation will have support for no more and no less then MPEG 1/2/4 encode and decode as well as WMV9 decode acceleration.

This means that all decoding and encoding operation previously done by software and very CPU dependant will be able to be processed on NV4X chips. We are not aware specifically how Nvidia plans to do that but it sounds promising.

NV40's introduction is just weeks away.



..........there, you will all sleep soundly in your beds now that you know!!  :whistle:  

[Dingo]

Here we go again     ...............

THE BIGGEST and most closely-guarded secret about ATI's upcoming R420 chip, in either R420XT or R420PRO guise, is the number of pipelines the chip will use.
But now we can reveal that the R420 design features 12 working piplines from a possible maximum of 16.

The ATI R420 chip seems to be a heavily-tweaked R360 core, with added pipelines, built on a .13 marchitecture that allows the chips to run faster than ATI's current high-end chip milestone, a 412MHz R360.

As we previously said, the relative frequency numbers for this chip will be close to 500/1000MHz in its XT version; it will use GDDR 3 memory that consumes less power, and yet gives out less heat, than DDR 2.

Its all about the brawn this time, ATI says. And, with six vertex shader units, this chip ought to be very fast.

Despite protests, the outlook remains very cloudy for the upcoming performance crown battle between the R420 and Nvidia's NV40.


While on the other side of town...........

AFTER DAYS, nay weeks of inquiring we can now confirm that NV40 is not 8x2 marchitecture part as we previously suggested. Nvidia is behaving as if the NV40 was the Crown Jewels of Her Brittanic Majesty Queen Elizabeth II. Fish can fly, but it's been spreading flying red herrings.
Nvidia is telling "selected people" that NV40 is indeed 210 millions of transistor chip with 16 pipelines as we reported a few weeks ago.

The other side of this NV40 coin is that the real Mc Coy the real NV40 card that was taped out quite some time ago is actually going to be KIA [Killed in action]. Very knowledgeable friends told us recently in the Vienna Opera house that NV40 with 16 pipes and 210 millions of transistor is completely other chip then original NV40.

What actually happened is that Nvidia recently learned about R420 marchitecture and this entire 12x1 story and, that they will eventually end up in second place and decided to can NV40 project and to go immediately with NV45.

NV45 is the name for PCI Express NV40 but apparently this new chip is a rushed new project that Nvidia wanted to save for later.

Still as a consequence our Opera loving friend suggested that there is no possible way that Nvidia might have a working version of the chip at Cebit or if they have it its early silicon for showing off. You can forget about launch party at CeBIT or anytime soon, we are given to understand. Even if the company launches it in April it will be a pure paper launch as NVDA cannot deliver it so soon.

As the case is altered, Nvidia might win performance crown again but it's absolutely certain that ATI R420XT will be the first next generation card in shops.

[Doorman]

So which one do I buy?

[Dingo]

refer to the manual Ron.........look on page 66, cross reference with page 48, multiply the outcome by page 71 and divide by the appendix    :whistle:

[Anonymous]

I dont have an appendix - it was removed when I was 6. If I divide by it I get infinity. Is there an Infinity graphics card?

[DuVeL]

Originally posted by BlueBall@Mar 17 2004, 09:26 AM
I dont have an appendix - it was removed when I was 6. If I divide by it I get infinity. Is there an Infinity graphics card?

Good question, I've got the same, also no appendix anymore, some surgeon took it out. The b*st***, gave me alot of pain.

[Dingo]

Ah, that'll be human case mods then....have you tried a cold cathode for that or better yet get virus protection from Norton or the like!!  <_<  

[DarkAngel]

Is there an Infinity graphics card?

Ive got an infinity sub does that count?  

[Gh0st Face Killah]

Nope fraid not DA.
Nice try though.

[Dingo]

Just in time for the LAN?!!


ATI will ship its much-anticipated R420 chip later this month as the Radeon X800 Pro. The part's 26 April debut will be followed a month later by the Radeon X800 XT on 31 May.

So claims Anandtech, citing unnamed vendor sources and a glance at ATI's roadmap.

If the date is accurate, it puts ATI just 13 days behind Nvidia's NV40 launch on 13 April. NV40 will surface as the GeForce 6800 and is likely to form the basis for other series 6000 GeForce parts. Note the lack of the 'FX' branding - Nvidia has dropped it, Anandtech claims.

The X800 Pro will ship with 256MB of GDDR 3 graphics RAM across a 256-bit memory bus, but a revised version with 512MB of memory is expected later this year. The report also forecasts the arrival of an X800 SE, which supports 128MB of vanilla DDR SDRAM.

The R420 is an AGP 8x part - the native PCI Express version, the R423, will launch on 14 June, the report claims. It too will be offered as the Radeon X800. Both versions are expected to clock at around 500MHz with 1GHz memory clock frequencies. They feature eight-stage pipelines with six vertex shaders.

Expect to see Radeon X600 and X300 products in due course, we're told, as the RV380 and RV370 parts come on stream. These represent ATI's first 110nm parts.

Meanwhile, ATI's Radeon 9100 IGP is due for an update, apparently, in a few months' time. The revision, codenamed 'RS350', will support Intel's LGA775 CPU interface.

Further down the line, late in Q3, ATI will offer three new Pentium 4 chipsets, currently dubbed the RS400, RC400 and RU400. The first provides PCI Express graphics and non-graphics add-in card buses, along with a dual-channel memory controller. The other two will offer single-channel memory support, while the latter will not support external graphics cards.

AMD isn't being left out, courtesy of RS480 and RX480 chipsets, the first with integrated graphics the second without it.


....and on another street corner!!

Nvidia will unveil its next-generation graphics chip - almost certainly the long-awaited NV40 - on 13 April.

So claims a source close to the company cited by Extreme Tech's Mark Hachman.

Alas, the source proved unable to say much about the chip itself. Unconfirmed reports from a variety of websites suggest it will be a DirectX 9.0 part with 16 parallel pipelines running through enhanced pixel shaders.

The NV40 is not expected to support PCI Express directly but ship with an AGP-to-PCI Express bridge chip. One source Hachman spoke to said the chip's AGP bus will be boosted to an unofficial 16x spec. to match the needs of PCI Express. Certainly, Nvidia's first line of PCI Express parts - the GeForce PCX 5950, PCX 5750, PCX 5300 and PCX 4300 - are all AGP 8x chips that ship with a bridge part.

If the NV40 is launched next month, it marks the end of a long wait for the part, which was originally roadmapped for a late 2003 debut. When that was the case, Nvidia had a revised version, the NV45, on its roadmap for a Q2 2004 introduction.

The Nv45 was due to be Nvidia's first native PCI Express part, with the NV40 offered in both AGP 8x and PCI Express forms.

Recent speculation has centred on major design changes made by Nvidia to the NV40 core. Certainly, ATI is believed to have binned its next-generation R400 part in favour of a souped-up version of its R300 architecture, the R420. The R420 is believed to sport a native PCI Express interface and is expected to debut in the coming months

[RizZy]

I've no idea what you've just said, but I know I want one

[Dingo]

Originally posted by RizZy@Apr 8 2004, 09:56 AM
I've no idea what you've just said, but I know I want one

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