Nexus 5X & Nexus 6P

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smilodon

Hmm I really don't think Google understand how to market and sell mobile phones. The basic idea, and one that is followed by most other manufacturers and carriers, is to make a smartphone and then almost immediately abandon it. Offer no upgrades, no security patches and definitely never offer  the next Google desert. A combination of owning an increasingly obsolete device, riddled with security flaws and sporting last years sweetie themed version of Android will have customers lining up to grab the new version. As long as Google keep releasing outstanding hardware that comes bloat free and then support it for three or four years they'll never crack the mobile phone market.
smilodon
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OldBloke

Quote from: OldBloke;404480I will be ordering the 5X to replace my 5 but not until I see a proper review.

Bugger that. Too tempting.

Ordered the 32GB NX5 from Carphonewarehouse for 349.99GBP  - 30 quid cheaper than Google Store :D
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TeaLeaf

Quote from: OldBloke;404565Bugger that. Too tempting.

Ordered the 32GB NX5 from Carphonewarehouse for 349.99GBP  - 30 quid cheaper than Google Store :D
:roflmao:

Technology eh?  You got to love it!
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smilodon

Quote from: OldBloke;404565Bugger that. Too tempting.

Ordered the 32GB NX5 from Carphonewarehouse for 349.99GBP  - 30 quid cheaper than Google Store :D

You know you really should have gone for the Nexus 6 P don't you.......... :devil:
smilodon
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OldBloke

Nexus 5X being delivered today :yahoo:
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TeaLeaf

Quote from: OldBloke;405146Nexus 5X being delivered today :yahoo:

Result!   My 6P is not slated for delivery until 2nd-4th Nov.    You lucky, lucky person you!
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OldBloke

Quote from: OldBloke;405146Nexus 5X being delivered today :yahoo:

QuoteYour Carphone Warehouse parcel has been delayed

We were expecting to deliver a parcel to you today; however, we have not yet received this parcel from Carphone Warehouse. As soon as we get your parcel, we will send you an email with your new delivery details. Until then, please contact the sender for more information.

Grrrrr :ranting2:
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TeaLeaf

:roflmao:

You have to admit, CW are getting the '£30 savings' back in sheer entertainment value!
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Jamoe

Quote from: smilodon;404555Hmm I really don't think Google understand how to market and sell mobile phones. The basic idea, and one that is followed by most other manufacturers and carriers, is to make a smartphone and then almost immediately abandon it. Offer no upgrades, no security patches and definitely never offer  the next Google desert. A combination of owning an increasingly obsolete device, riddled with security flaws and sporting last years sweetie themed version of Android will have customers lining up to grab the new version. As long as Google keep releasing outstanding hardware that comes bloat free and then support it for three or four years they'll never crack the mobile phone market.

I think Andriod hold something like 80% of the market. I imagine most of those will have a google account.

Are they trying to conquer the market or are they just using it to dog food android and keep it ahead of the competition?

Nexus 5 here, just update to Android 6 a couple of nights ago. I've not once had the feeling I've needed to get a replacement phone. But I have spent plenty on the Play store and given lots of data to google :)

OldBloke

Engadget reviews are up ...

Nexus 5X

Summary ...

QuoteFor those who yearned for the days of budget- and pocket-friendly Nexus handsets, the 5X is for you. No, it's not quite as premium as its rivals and it doesn't have the higher-end specs of its bigger 6P brother, but it more than makes up for that with its affordable price. And you do get quite a lot of phone for the money: The display is sharp; the fingerprint sensor works as promised; the performance is smooth; and you get a decent camera too. Even though the OnePlus 2 and the Moto X Pure offer a better deal and slightly better specs, they lack that speedy fingerprint sensor and don't deliver a pure Android experience, which is important to those who want timelier upgrades. With its sub-$400 price and healthy feature set, the 5X is a more-than-worthy successor to the Nexus 5.


Nexus 6P

Summary ...

QuoteThe Nexus 6P isn't a perfect phone. Its power button is frustratingly touchy. Its design is a little lacking in charm. The camera, while better, isn't a huge leap over last year's. And yet, what Google and Huawei get right, they get very right. Android 6.0 Marshmallow is a thoughtful, valuable update even if it's not as outright dramatic as Lollipop was. The fit and finish of the all-metal body is top-notch. The fingerprint sensor works like a charm and the phone packs plenty of oomph into a package you can actually use comfortably with one hand. There's plenty to like here, even if the phone isn't for everyone (not that it was ever really meant to be). If you're down to see where the bleeding edge of Android takes you, this is the phone for you. If you're just looking for an excellent Android phone, this could be the phone for you too... along with any number of strong alternatives.
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TeaLeaf

From those Engadget pages, their 'Summary' paragraphs:

Quote from: Nexus 5xPROS
Great value for the money
Quick and accurate fingerprint sensor
Android 6.0 is a fantastic upgrade
Compatible with Google's Fi network

CONS
Mediocre battery life
No microSD card slot

SUMMARY
With a lower price and a smaller form factor, the Nexus 5X signifies Google's return to a more affordable phone that's also friendlier to those with tinier hands. Starting at just $379, the 5X offers a lovely display, a speedy new fingerprint sensor and a surprisingly decent camera. It does falter a little with sub-optimal battery life and specs that aren't as good as its rivals, but the 5X is still a solid phone -- especially for its price.

Quote from: Nexus 6PPROS
Snappy performance
Android 6.0 is a worthy update
Solid battery life
Fingerprint sensor is excellent

CONS
Design is a little drab
Overly sensitive power button
Improved camera still outclassed by its rivals

SUMMARY
The bigger of this year's two Nexus handsets seems like a dream on paper, with premium build quality, top-tier specs and access to the latest software updates straight from Google. Most importantly, Google finally has made a big phone that's comfortable to use with one hand. It's great for die-hard Android enthusiasts, but we're all spoiled for choice this year and the Nexus 6P doesn't do much to outshine the competition.

The improved battery life on the 6P is what I am looking forward to as it is the one area my current Nexus 5 has been a little lacking (I have taken to carrying a charge pack around to recharge the battery when needed).
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TeaLeaf

Quote from: TeaLeaf;405268The improved battery life on the 6P is what I am looking forward to as it is the one area my current Nexus 5 has been a little lacking (I have taken to carrying a charge pack around to recharge the battery when needed).
Google have shot themselves in the foot here.   My concern with my current Nexus 5 was battery life, so I ordered a Nexus 6P.

Then Marshmallow with the Android M Doze feature arrived on my Nexus 5 and my battery life has doubled or tripled.   I've been so pleased with Marshmallow battery impact on my Nexus 5 that this morning I cancelled my order for the Nexus 6P.

If they'd delayed releasing Marshmallow until the beginning of November then I would have gone through with my order and would have been holding a shiny new Nexus 6P in my sweaty palms and eulogising about the brilliant battery life of the 6P instead of how good Android M Doze has been!  Thanks Google, you just saved me £449!
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Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)

Tutonic

It's rapidly moving from buying hardware to a software subscription, isn't it?

My OnePlus is over a year old, which would previously be considered and ripe for upgrading. I can't see any reason to ditch it now, other than for a software update. How long until Google dish out the hardware for free, and charge per month/year for Android?
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TeaLeaf

Tbh, they could charge quite a decent sum on that basis.   I've been rolling over to a new phone every 2 years or so at a cost of £300-£450 each time, so my acceptable subscription price is probably nearer £100 pa if they dished out new hardware for free each time.
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Toxteth

I dropped my Nexus 5 from a height of about 1m and broke the screen - not cracked but need to replace the LCD.

I have been quoted £120 for the repair which the supplier has refunded to me, so I now have £120 to spend on either replacing the screen of my original phone, or I can add £160 of my money and upgrade to the Nexus 5X.

What do people think, is the 5X worth it?