Grimnar

Penfold · July 26, 2016, 05:33:39 PM

Guys, please see update in News.

We're sorry but we felt we had little choice but to ban Grim as per our Member Standards.

Looking through the unlocked chests, I'd be VERY surprised is this was a one off. There's 1000's of materials like spark powerder and lines of lockers filled to the brim.

Has anyone seen any of the DWI guys online at all???

We'll go about removing his buildings and dinos as per the above, leaving everything to spoil.

Penfold · July 26, 2016, 08:06:45 PM

I went to Grim's house, slaughtered the dinosaurs and started to dismantle the chests and house. Feel free to demolish and let perish if you're on.

I have a video of me doing it ..... for no other reason than best practice really to show a. I let it perish and b. what he had. Apart from 1000's of all base materials he had a similar amount of narcs and arrows. Happy to post up if/as required.

The Rex had been renamed [AA] but I killed it as it was originally Grim's tame.

PEN (with a heavy heart).

Chaosphere · July 26, 2016, 08:11:15 PM

I'm fairly certain the giga was force tamed on the old server too btw... I think this was a fairly prolific thing, unfortunately. I didn't see any other option you had available to you so am not surprised with the outcome. Disappointed, sure, and for what it's worth I liked the interactions I had with him - but this does not excuse unfair play.. the 'attitude' of the community is one reason I personally stick around (and some of you lot aren't bad company either I suppose), and fair play is an essential part of that IMHO.

Edit

I'm not interested in the video personally, but thanks for getting rid of the stuff.

OldBloke · July 26, 2016, 09:11:43 PM

I have destroyed his structures using admin commands :sad:

Gone_Away · July 26, 2016, 09:33:57 PM

Sad indeed. Stupid really...

FWIW I think the only recourse was the ban from servers / forums. I totally support your decision.

This community has been built on fair play and trust. Without it... It's just a pubby server and forum.

NF

SithAfrikaan · July 27, 2016, 12:21:14 AM

I've kept quiet, I was super disappointed with the community giga tame, said I thought it was crazy how he managed to get the amounts of resources etc, but I never once suspected cheating outright, and its really really sucked finding out that he has done/ did do...

I wholely support the actions that the council has taken against the matter.
Thanks for putting the community, rules and guidelines first dudes

Good work!

Galatoni · July 27, 2016, 07:19:47 AM

+1 You should be commended on your leadership. I don't think anyone really expected this to be as widespread as it was. One of the reasons I like the community so much is because of our core beliefs as a group. You've done the right thing here, and such a long-standing member should've known better.

Penfold · July 27, 2016, 08:52:58 AM

Thanks chaps and your support is appreciated.

Unfortunately we have no way of knowing what when on with The Island map. However, I'm now building just metal railings and with the amount of work/time that's taking, there's no way it was all legit. That Giga pen alone would have been nigh on impossible in the time frame.

Oh well we live and learn. Some of you had your suspicions on the last map and we would ask that if someone similar crops up again do please PM myself or one of the Council. It will all be dealt with anonymously and discreet checks made. It's not always easy being as admin which is why we don't pay you. :flirty:

albert · July 27, 2016, 09:39:12 AM

Sorry harvested the meat from the T-Rex not knowing that it had been put down. I must have flew by minutes after you slaughtered the animal.

Liberator · July 27, 2016, 10:33:51 AM

Very sad that it came to this, but completely agree with the councils decision. As a former game leader or admin you have shown a high standard and have been trusted to maintain that standard.

Until the final days of the server my commands were restricted to ghosting dino's out of the foundations after a server update and remote adding people to the tribe. There was no way I could have built that hill fort for the final fun without gifting myself the items, I couldn't even drum up enough stone to expand my base in the end days of the server. But those items were restricted to that community building only and the server was shutting down a few days later.

I think that he probably did tame the Giga on there legitimately, if not exactly in the spirit of the community and the feelings expressed then of being excluded from what was being set up as a community event were echoed amongst us all. I believe the original Giga pen in the centre of the map was legit as well, it was started well before he tamed the Giga and Snokio went out collecting all the cementing paste while grim got metal and it did take a while to build.

Some of the latter building on "The Island" did seem to be too fast for the number of resources required. I know it took me a hell of a long time just to build my metal wall, originally cementing paste and once that became abundant it was metal that was the issue.

But the decision was made on proved admin abuse on "The Centre" map, so we shouldn't assume anything about "The Island" that wasn't backed by solid evidence, despite our feelings of being let down by a trusted peer.

Chaosphere · July 27, 2016, 11:02:38 AM

Lib that final building was all for the 'extinction events' and so on, a different matter entirely ofc.

Like you and smilo before you said it's all about proof. Whats done is done and doesn't matter now. We have proof of enough and anything else is just speculation and gets us nowhere.

It's a sad thing but let's put it behind us now and move on to try to help ark keep going within the community.