Delidding the i7 8700K

[Penfold]

Blatent hijack

Can anyone please tell me how I see what processor I can upgrade my PC with?

My machine is quite old now so I think a new processor and card is in order. Previously I've just dumped the machine and bought a new one but I'm thinking it would be more sensible to upgrade the processor and graphics card.

This is the mobo ASUS® P6X58D-E: DDR3, USB 3.0, SATA 6.0GB/s, 3-Way SLI

The machine is a good 8years old.

This is the rest of the spec

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[TD=class: wysiwyg_cms_table tl]COOLERMASTER CM690 MKII ADVANCED CASE[/TD]
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[TD=class: tdb w35 tr]Overclocked CPU[/TD]
[TD=class: wysiwyg_cms_table tl]OverClocked Intel® Coreâ,,¢i7 Quad Core Processor i7-950 (3.06GHz @ max 3.8GHz)[/TD]
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[TD=class: tdb w35 tr]OC Settings[/TD]
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[TD=class: tdb w35 tr]Motherboard[/TD]
[TD=class: wysiwyg_cms_table tl]ASUS® P6X58D-E: DDR3, USB 3.0, SATA 6.0GB/s, 3-Way SLI[/TD]
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[TD=class: tdb w35 tr]Memory (RAM)[/TD]
[TD=class: wysiwyg_cms_table tl]16GB KINGSTON HYPER-X T1 TRI-DDR3 2000MHz, X.M.P (3 x 2GB KIT)[/TD]
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[TD=class: tdb w35 tr]Graphics Card[/TD]
[TD=class: wysiwyg_cms_table tl]Gtx 670
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[TD=class: tdb w35 tr]2^nd Graphics Card[/TD]
[TD=class: wysiwyg_cms_table tl]NONE[/TD]
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[TD=class: tdb w35 tr]3^rd Graphics Card[/TD]
[TD=class: wysiwyg_cms_table tl]NONE[/TD]
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[TD=class: tdb w35 tr]1^st Hard Disk[/TD]
[TD=class: wysiwyg_cms_table tl]500GB SSD
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[TD=class: tdb w35 tr]2^nd Hard Disk[/TD]
[TD=class: wysiwyg_cms_table tl]1TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD1002FAEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)[/TD]
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[TD=class: tdb w35 tr]RAID[/TD]
[TD=class: wysiwyg_cms_table tl]NONE[/TD]
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[TD=class: tdb w35 tr]DVD/BLU-RAY Drive[/TD]
[TD=class: wysiwyg_cms_table tl]24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM[/TD]
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[TD=class: tdb w35 tr]2^nd DVD/BLU-RAY Drive[/TD]
[TD=class: wysiwyg_cms_table tl]NONE[/TD]
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[TD=class: tdb w35 tr]Memory Card Reader[/TD]
[TD=class: wysiwyg_cms_table tl]INTERNAL 52 IN 1 CARD READER (XD, MS, CF, SD, etc) + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT[/TD]
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[TD=class: tdb w35 tr]Power Supply[/TD]
[TD=class: wysiwyg_cms_table tl]CORSAIR 750W PSU (TX750) 80+ ULTRA QUIET (£88)[/TD]
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[TD=class: tdb w35 tr]Processor Cooling[/TD]
[TD=class: wysiwyg_cms_table tl]TITAN FENRIR EVO EXTREME HEATPIPE CPU COOLER (£39)[/TD]
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[TD=class: tdb w35 tr]Thermal Paste[/TD]
[TD=class: wysiwyg_cms_table tl]ARCTIC COOLING MX-3 HIGH THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND (£9)[/TD]
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[TD=class: tdb w35 tr]Sound Card[/TD]
[TD=class: wysiwyg_cms_table tl]ONBOARD 8 CHANNEL (7.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)[/TD]
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[TD=class: tdb w35 tr]Wireless/Wired Networking[/TD]
[TD=class: wysiwyg_cms_table tl]ONBOARD 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT[/TD]
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[TD=class: tdb w35 tr]USB Options[/TD]
[TD=class: wysiwyg_cms_table tl]6 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL (MIN 2 FRONT PORTS) AS STANDARD[/TD]
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[TD=class: tdb w35 tr]4G Module[/TD]
[TD=class: wysiwyg_cms_table tl]NONE, I WILL BE USING BROADBAND[/TD]
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Or do I really need to scrap?

[Chaosphere]

I'm afraid it is destined for the scrapyard Pen, there really isn't a reasonable upgrade path from that CPU socket.

Happy to help advise / spec out a build if you give me a budget.

You could at least keep the power supply, case, and hard drive if desired. However an 8 your old power supply is probably worth replacing, and you should look to at least adding a larger SSD for the main drive in the next PC.

[Penfold]

Aye what I thought. I was going to get a new one a couple of years ago but bought the Surface Pro.

Ah well. Sounds good but not this month as I've just bought a new watch.

Thanks, I'll have a thunk and post up a spec in due course for comments.

[Chaosphere]

Sounds good.

[albert]

I don't know how I missed this, very nice work Ben.

One issue. Cotton bud to spread thermal paste? Doesn't every guide to installing a CPU say do not use fibrous materials as they could contaminate the paste? One particle or fiber in the paste can add several degrees of heat to the die.

Just a thin line of arctic silver V and let the pressure from bringing the two parts together I find to have been the most effective. I tested spreading vs the lay on method and I reduced temp by 4 degrees between the 2. My 4790K runs at 4.5GHz up from 3.2 at 35 degrees with an H100.

I seriously recommend redoing the paste but without spreading it with cotton, use a fiber cloth or something else. https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Thermal-Paste-Application-Techniques-170/ This is teh daddy of articles on paste.

[Chaosphere]

Liquid metal doesn't spread like conventional paste, it has to be almost 'painted' on to the die. I will show you at the LAN with Pesteh's CPU.

As for what to do it with, the cotton buds that come with the liquid metal are very tightly wound, they don't really leave any noticeable waste behind. I am in fact trying to get some more, as the ones I have are now well used. You can't leave this to spread by pressure, it simply doesn't work.



As for spreading conventional paste, many a YouTube video has shown that the only wrong way is to use too little. Every other application will result in more or less identical temps. Small dot, blob, line, X... whatever floats your boat.

https://youtu.be/EUWVVTY63hc

[Sneakytiger]

I was talking to overclockers at egx about delidding and u can buy a kit from them now.


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[Chaosphere]

Yes, the delidding tool I used (see my first post in this thread) was purchased from OcUK. It was designed / brought to market by a German Overclocker. There are a few alternatives, all do the same thing. Really just a hand held vice shaped to fit the 1151 Intel CPUs.

[Chaosphere]

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While we're at it, this is my laptop... Also 'liquid metalled'...

I really don't recommend this one, the chances of the metal running onto something it shouldn't are perhaps higher than with a fairly stationary desktop. It's conductive, on course, and could easily kill the PC if it gets on the motherboard. Much higher risk than the comparatively simple CPU delid...

Still, the laptop is still alive...for now fun fun!

[Mikep1212]

Thread Revival!!!

Due to the hot weather recently I decided to delid my ageing 7700K. On the hottest day last week running stress tests I was hitting 84-86c. After adding liquid metal this has dropped to 64-67c

Stress testing temps down -20c
Gaming temps down -10c
Water temp whilst gaming is down -2c

[Sneakytiger]

Year mike my 6700k I had to drop down the overclock from 4.6 to 4.2 cause of heat still hitting 80c even with cooling from my h100i v2 cooler so might ask chaos if he can de lid it at the lan.


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[TeaLeaf]

Whilst it is being revived, I'll add that the easy way to protect against shorting out your cpu is simply to paint some nail varnish over the surface contacts.  Works like a charm.

[Chaosphere]

Nail varnish was necessary on the 4770K as there are capacitors / transistors on the PCB, right next to the die. There is no need on the 8700, as the PCB is bare on that side. Easy!

Just to clarify what TL said as I think some incorrect terminology was used that has the potential to confuse... nail varnish must only ever be placed on the CPU next to the die itself, if there are small components found there (many CPUs now have nothing there). This is the side that does not contact with the motherboard socket.

If you look at my pictures from my 1080Ti die, you can see lots of small components surrounding the die (the bit painted with liquid metal) that I coated with varnish due to their close proximity to the metal. This is a good example of when to bring out your nail varnish :flirty:.

The CPU contacts however are the other side, that connect to the motherboard socket pins, so caution with that terminology. You absolutely must not put anything on the CPU contacts, as this will interfere with the socket communicating with the CPU and can render the CPU useless unless you can clean away whatever is there. Varnish on the contacts will stop the CPU working, metal on the contacts has the potential to kill the CPU.

As I said in my first post please make sure you know exactly what you're doing before you attempt. Mike did, and did a good job as a result. Well played sir.

[Sneakytiger]

U think it's worth it upgrading from h100iv2 to h100i platinum?

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[sulky_uk]

sneaky see here

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/corsair-h100i-rgb-platinum-cooler,5905-2.html

also i have an 8700k running at 4.7 on the same cooler as you and never breach 73 under full load, av 30 on idle.

Have you cleaned your radiator, checked that the air flow is good? mine also vents at the top of the case, so hot air from the gpu is going through the fans (at the top), then the rad also. if it is on the front, try having the fans suckling into the case and the rad mounted on the inside of the fans ie right on the extreme front (so cold air sucked through)

Also if using corsair fans try using the Al suite to put your fans to max speed when playing games and make sure your pump is running (as recommended by corsair) at max chat, ie for me 4000rpm. hopefully that will save you buying stuff