Upgrade time!

Galatoni · July 21, 2019, 08:40:22 AM

I'm putting it off just got now. But these suggestions are really good. Just going to get some Knuckles for my vive. I'm going to see what prices do with the new releases on the horizon. It's looking very much like I'm going to be joining AMD again though.

There's just no comparison between the prices/performance.

DiseasedBunny · July 27, 2019, 11:15:18 PM

Quote from: Twyst;438373HDD Is still a thing?
I last used spinning platters about 3-4 years ago - even my 10y old laptop has a SSD now.

I took advantage of Amazon Prime Day and picked up a Samsung 1TB SSD for Â£99 (now back to Â£132).
Best upgrade ever.

And just to echo a few others thoughts here - I've been rocking a watercooled setup for 2 years now - Kraken X61 AIO CPU cooler and a Vega64 Liquid Cooled reference card. This isn't for overclock - it's for noise reduction.
I hardly hear this beast!

OK, it *is* overclocked, but it's the same OC I had on air, just now on water.

What PSU do you have for the Vega? I'm on a 500w for my rx470 and thinking it might not be enough for either of the Vega cards?

Hellmate · July 31, 2019, 10:19:39 PM

Hey i'm looking to build a new pc with around 1700euros max to spend (I'm in the Netherlands)
https://www.alternate.nl/html/configurator/builder/loadSharedConfiguration.html?kind=pcBuilder&id=a286c7b963def3ffcbb3e679e64bbe6e I've currently got this scrambled together as an idea but i'm sure it's good, i do want to buy a good 144hz monitor with it

Hellmate · July 31, 2019, 10:31:49 PM

I'm sure it's not good*

Chaosphere · August 01, 2019, 09:02:56 AM

Quote from: Hellmate;438533Hey i'm looking to build a new pc with around 1700euros max to spend (I'm in the Netherlands)
https://www.alternate.nl/html/configurator/builder/loadSharedConfiguration.html?kind=pcBuilder&id=a286c7b963def3ffcbb3e679e64bbe6e I've currently got this scrambled together as an idea but i'm sure it's good, i do want to buy a good 144hz monitor with it

Avoid the 2700X now the Ryzen 3000s are out - get the 3700X instead.

That B450 motherboard is theoretically fine, but it will likely not support the CPU out of the box. The older motherboards require bios updates to support the new CPUs.

I strongly suggest anyone purchasing a new Ryzen CPU read through the link below. Many motherboards will be easy to update with a simple USB drive, but some may require a bit more tinkering... Just make sure you know what you're getting yourself into before purchasing.

https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/pa-100

Hellmate · August 01, 2019, 10:49:18 AM

Quote from: Chaosphere;438536Avoid the 2700X now the Ryzen 3000s are out - get the 3700X instead.

That B450 motherboard is theoretically fine, but it will likely not support the CPU out of the box. The older motherboards require bios updates to support the new CPUs.

I strongly suggest anyone purchasing a new Ryzen CPU read through the link below. Many motherboards will be easy to update with a simple USB drive, but some may require a bit more tinkering... Just make sure you know what you're getting yourself into before purchasing.

https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/pa-100

Thank you for your response and advice, i've changed up the 2700X to a 3700X and would ASUS PRIME X470-PRO, socket AM4 be better for this or would it be the same issue? i could then also go for GIGABYTE AORUS X570 AORUS ELITE, socket AM4

Gunda · August 01, 2019, 01:48:02 PM

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I've taken the plunge and am busy building the above at the moment... on the lookout for a 144Hz 1440p 27" IPS screen in the coming months i think..

RizZy · August 01, 2019, 04:12:03 PM

Quote from: Hellmate;438539Thank you for your response and advice, i've changed up the 2700X to a 3700X and would ASUS PRIME X470-PRO, socket AM4 be better for this or would it be the same issue? i could then also go for GIGABYTE AORUS X570 AORUS ELITE, socket AM4

If you take a look at - link & compare the mobos you're interested in you can see on there how well they'll support the new chips & whether they've got usb bios flashback on them too.

+ looking at your original build I'd consider just going with the cpu cooler that comes with the 3700x - you can always upgrade later if you feel the need, & Ryzen loves fast ram too, so consider sticking something faster than 3000 in there.

Hellmate · August 01, 2019, 05:26:42 PM

Quote from: RizZy;438542If you take a look at - link & compare the mobos you're interested in you can see on there how well they'll support the new chips & whether they've got usb bios flashback on them too.

+ looking at your original build I'd consider just going with the cpu cooler that comes with the 3700x - you can always upgrade later if you feel the need, & Ryzen loves fast ram too, so consider sticking something faster than 3000 in there.

Thank you for your advice and the chart, would 3600 be enough or is 3200 already plenty for the ram speed?

RizZy · August 01, 2019, 06:13:05 PM

From what I read on the older motherboards the "sweet spot" was 3200 cl14, AMD recomoneds 3600 cl16 for the new x570 boards, problem with both of those is you'll have to pay a premium for both, so for me what I think I'll probably do is go for something with looser timings but try my luck at oc'ing them a bit, a good little vid on the speeds & the lack of difference beyond a certain point is - https://youtu.be/CloyuBw_E_0

kregoron · August 02, 2019, 03:55:26 PM

i love the ryzen when it works..
So far ive been what i hope is just unlucky with the memory.
First set of vengeance died violently.
Second vengeance were unstable and had a few bad areas.
Then i tried a 3600C16 G.skill ripjaw 5 kit. Refuses to run stable on anything then 2133.
Now testing out a G.skill flareX F4-3200C16 set. which passed memtest on first go..

kregoron · August 04, 2019, 12:07:44 AM

G.skill flareX kit works like a charm so far.

After a little testing and reading.
Apparently there some issues with certain kits XMP profiles. Causing instability and audio distortion for some reason.
Retested the G.skill 3600C16 by manually setting speed and timings. Kit ran stable through 2 hours of prime95 and a 4 pass memtest86
Vengeance kits were faulty, nothing to do about that

albert · August 04, 2019, 09:20:20 AM

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I've taken the plunge and am busy building the above at the moment... on the lookout for a 144Hz 1440p 27" IPS screen in the coming months i think..

I bought the 2TB QVO drive, so far I see it running pretty much as fast for read and write as the EVOs.

DiseasedBunny · September 05, 2019, 01:50:07 PM

Save opening a new thread for what should be a simple question...is the X version of Ryzen worth the money if you don't expect to overclock?

Galatoni · September 05, 2019, 04:08:20 PM

Depending where you're buying it from, scan do an awesome bundle (i've just bought it today). I'd certainly say that the boost speed you get from it should be worth it, so it'll happily manage heat/speed for you, the 3700X for example will boost right up to 4.4. Pretty good article explaining it here: https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/ryzen-7-3700x-overclocking-benchmarks-performance

I've never been much for overclocking, it's quite risky and you're likely to reduce the life of what would otherwise be an excellent system.