calamity james is back

[Vincentvega]

If we dont find another goal keeper we are going no were.
wot a pile of crappy keeping last night...
a good team starts with a good defence .a good defence starts with a good keeper .
my 2 $ <_<  <_<

[MAD_ness]

Originally posted by Vincentvega@Sep 5 2004, 11:19 AM
If we dont find another goal keeper we are going no were.
wot a pile of crappy keeping last night...
a good team starts with a good defence .a good defence starts with a good keeper .
my 2 $ <_<  <_<

:withstupid:

If he really is the best we have to offer as our national stopper ................

what chance have we got of qualification ??


give up now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:devil:  :devil:

[Moment]

agreed

[Benny]

Robinson.

[Moment]

is just as bad all are keepers have been in relegated teams from the prem so they cant be that gd..........are best hope is at liverpool with chris kirkland (dunno how u spell his name)

[Benny]

So any player that has been relegated, no matter at what stage in their career isn't deserving of an England spot?

Following your logic, perhaps all goalies, just for this example, who haven't played in any lower division than the premiership should not be selected?

Players tend to improve up to a certain age,  Robinson is 24.  

I'll agree that Kirkland has potential too however.

[Thulsa Doom]

Used to be that Scottish goalies were the butt of all footy jokes.  I see the tide is turning (our goalies probably still suck tho)

[Moment]

im not saying there not worth picking im just pointing it out.....

other countrys have world class keepers who u would trust in 1 on 1....

i mean James u got to put it to him for what hes done with his life hes  good player probly is the best england has atm but better will come n he isnt world class is all im saying

[Vincentvega]

Originally posted by Moment@Sep 5 2004, 07:43 PM
is just as bad all are keepers have been in relegated teams from the prem so they cant be that gd..........are best hope is at liverpool with chris kirkland (dunno how u spell his name)

he would be in there if he wasnt injured "again"

[Moment]

ye down every 5 seconds

[Benny]

Isn't Dudek first choice scouse keeper anyway? I've always defended James, but I'm beginning to think that you can only have so many chances.

I still don't get the relegation point, it makes no sense.

[Moment]

well i think it does because to be religated there must of been a lot of goals conceded. Yea i no it isnt the keepers fault normaly but a good keeper sould be able to organise hi defence so a shot cant be taken.

so for the teams they play in to be religated they have let a lot of goals in compared to the other keeper from dif countrys who have not let many goals in many cus they can organise there defence, and they do have more tallent.

If you look at James he puts himself in akward situations alllways in no mans land which makes it very hard for himself, he will pull off unbelievable saves but then will make a stupid mistake which is why he isnt world class  <_<

[ChimpBoy]

Robinson

Kirkland

Green

Wright

And I believe Cudicini now qualifies as English



But will "Boring" Sven listen.............

[Benny]

You read the Observer too Chimp?

Cudicini does qualify as English, but I'd pick the in form Robinson over him.

As for the relegation thing, I don't think you can blame a keeper for what was a dire Leeds side with the sulk Viduka and the like not remotely taking an interest in saving the club. I'll think about it today, but I'm sure there are some outstanding players that have been relegated.

I do agree with your James comments though. It seems a shame that he blots his copy ook when he apppears to have such potential......Stan Collymore anyone?

[BigFatCat]

Don't think James suffers from Collymore's self-destructive tendencies off the pitch though. Never thought of him as reliable, I think he's had his chance and let someone else take over after failing to perform on key occasions.

It's far easier to spot the qualities of a keeper as they're less integrated into the team around them. It would be quite easy to recognise that a keeper for a Championship (sic) side could step up into international level by his performances for his club. That said, England have always chosen to ignore smaller teams when it came to international recognition, Hoddle was so short sighted he only considered Spudz players for the squads.