I have been a member of this Guild for approximately six months. During that time I have seen it unsteadily drift from a truly social, raiding Guild to a far more hardcore raiding Guild. While I acknowledge that some efforts are made to help and gear up some members, it has become clear that the Guild is, in the main, run by the elite for the elite (and their alts).
Over the past few weeks I have been treated appallingly by four officers on three separate occasions:
Firstly, by TL who attacked me in a public forum and subsequently by Jas for not ââ,¬Ëœallowingââ,¬â,,¢ me a right of reply. While I strongly disagreed with this, out of respect to the Guild, I complied.
Lee poured his derision upon me in raid chat for asking a question which, although quite basic, was outside my knowledge. As a social Guild, I would have thought that helping others to gain experience and knowledge was at the heart of the Guildââ,¬â,,¢s ethos. I found this humiliating and totally unjustified, especially from an officer. When I complained to Jas, no meaningful sanctions were taken against Lee ââ,¬â€œ not even an apology was forthcoming.
When unceremoniously dumped from a raid to the reserves, without being informed or asked to leave, I expressed how rude I found such treatment (in raid chat) before complying. As a particularly pertinent aside, this view (that this was rude) was echoed by Dannage in raid chat. I did not mind being replaced in the raid (indeed I expected it) as it progressed to the higher levels of ICC, but did object to the way it was done. I didn't expect a reply to my comment, I would have liked an acknowledgement that the fashion in which it was done was poor, and an apology would have been ideal. What followed were a barrage of decidedly unfriendly whispers from Whitey (with subsequent, courteous replies from me) where he used phrases such as ââ,¬Å"ffsââ,¬Â and told me that I had a ââ,¬Å"problemââ,¬Â because I insisted that I be treated with courtesy and respect. Whitey only relented when I suggested that we agree to disagree and we should move on. Whitey informed me that (apparently) the officers were ââ,¬Ëœtoo busyââ,¬â,,¢ to consider courtesy, even though we were all on the customary ââ,¬Ëœbreakââ,¬â,,¢ after Saurfang.
...and when I logged on this evening, I found that Whitey had the gall to have removed me from the raid calendar...presumably as a result of the above conversation. No notice or explanation was given via the in-game mail...just auto-generated notification that I had been removed. I find this highly petulant and a disgrace to the position of officer.
If this behaviour had come from ordinary dMr members, I would have dealt with it in my inimitable, robust fashion and moved on. However, these people are officers and should treat us all with courtesy and respect; I am upset and dismayed that this was not afforded to me from those who should set an example.
It has become clear that for whatever reason, I am no longer welcome in this Guild. I am saddened by this, as I have met a lot of really great people, made friends with many, and have begun to make new friends as the former Ovo members have joined us. Indeed, I hope that those who have joined party with me have found me sociable and where I could be, helpful. More importantly (for me) I hope that I helped you to have fun.
I speculate that I am no longer welcome because I do not give others the adulation that they seem to need or feel that they deserve (and have become accustomed to from others). In addition, it is because I will stand up for myself (and others), I insist that I be treated with respect, and have no qualms in robustly asserting what I feel are my rights as a member of the Guild and as a human beingââ,¬Â¦oh yes, and I donââ,¬â,,¢t have the gear and experience necessary to ââ,¬Ëœfit inââ,¬â,,¢.
Better gear, ever greater DPS, and progress ever deeper into ICC has considerable importance in game, but is a distant second to my priorityââ,¬Â¦having fun with others.
In my opinion, there is a lack of courtesy and respect from the officers towards me (and others), and there is a greater emphasis on ââ,¬Ëœprogress raidingââ,¬â,,¢ at the cost to the social aspects of the Guild. I conclude that as things are, the direction and goals of the Guild are not compatible with mine. Therefore, I have (with considerable despondency), moved all my characters out of the Guild.
I would like to maintain my login on the forums to keep in touch with friends and follow the progress of dMr members, but as this is not Guild policy, I very much doubt that I will be afforded that privilege.
I will strive to continue improving, and maybe even face the Lich King himself one day, unfortunately it is unlikely to be with dMr.
I wish all officers, class leaders and ordinary members of dMr every success in whatever they strive for - both within and outside the World of Warcraft. Above all, I hope that you all have fun doing it.
I hope to see you around Aszune.
Robert, the sorry-ass noob
aka: Treekin, Katee and Fixxit (and others)
Over the past few weeks I have been treated appallingly by four officers on three separate occasions:
Firstly, by TL who attacked me in a public forum and subsequently by Jas for not ââ,¬Ëœallowingââ,¬â,,¢ me a right of reply. While I strongly disagreed with this, out of respect to the Guild, I complied.
Lee poured his derision upon me in raid chat for asking a question which, although quite basic, was outside my knowledge. As a social Guild, I would have thought that helping others to gain experience and knowledge was at the heart of the Guildââ,¬â,,¢s ethos. I found this humiliating and totally unjustified, especially from an officer. When I complained to Jas, no meaningful sanctions were taken against Lee ââ,¬â€œ not even an apology was forthcoming.
When unceremoniously dumped from a raid to the reserves, without being informed or asked to leave, I expressed how rude I found such treatment (in raid chat) before complying. As a particularly pertinent aside, this view (that this was rude) was echoed by Dannage in raid chat. I did not mind being replaced in the raid (indeed I expected it) as it progressed to the higher levels of ICC, but did object to the way it was done. I didn't expect a reply to my comment, I would have liked an acknowledgement that the fashion in which it was done was poor, and an apology would have been ideal. What followed were a barrage of decidedly unfriendly whispers from Whitey (with subsequent, courteous replies from me) where he used phrases such as ââ,¬Å"ffsââ,¬Â and told me that I had a ââ,¬Å"problemââ,¬Â because I insisted that I be treated with courtesy and respect. Whitey only relented when I suggested that we agree to disagree and we should move on. Whitey informed me that (apparently) the officers were ââ,¬Ëœtoo busyââ,¬â,,¢ to consider courtesy, even though we were all on the customary ââ,¬Ëœbreakââ,¬â,,¢ after Saurfang.
...and when I logged on this evening, I found that Whitey had the gall to have removed me from the raid calendar...presumably as a result of the above conversation. No notice or explanation was given via the in-game mail...just auto-generated notification that I had been removed. I find this highly petulant and a disgrace to the position of officer.
If this behaviour had come from ordinary dMr members, I would have dealt with it in my inimitable, robust fashion and moved on. However, these people are officers and should treat us all with courtesy and respect; I am upset and dismayed that this was not afforded to me from those who should set an example.
It has become clear that for whatever reason, I am no longer welcome in this Guild. I am saddened by this, as I have met a lot of really great people, made friends with many, and have begun to make new friends as the former Ovo members have joined us. Indeed, I hope that those who have joined party with me have found me sociable and where I could be, helpful. More importantly (for me) I hope that I helped you to have fun.
I speculate that I am no longer welcome because I do not give others the adulation that they seem to need or feel that they deserve (and have become accustomed to from others). In addition, it is because I will stand up for myself (and others), I insist that I be treated with respect, and have no qualms in robustly asserting what I feel are my rights as a member of the Guild and as a human beingââ,¬Â¦oh yes, and I donââ,¬â,,¢t have the gear and experience necessary to ââ,¬Ëœfit inââ,¬â,,¢.
Better gear, ever greater DPS, and progress ever deeper into ICC has considerable importance in game, but is a distant second to my priorityââ,¬Â¦having fun with others.
In my opinion, there is a lack of courtesy and respect from the officers towards me (and others), and there is a greater emphasis on ââ,¬Ëœprogress raidingââ,¬â,,¢ at the cost to the social aspects of the Guild. I conclude that as things are, the direction and goals of the Guild are not compatible with mine. Therefore, I have (with considerable despondency), moved all my characters out of the Guild.
I would like to maintain my login on the forums to keep in touch with friends and follow the progress of dMr members, but as this is not Guild policy, I very much doubt that I will be afforded that privilege.
I will strive to continue improving, and maybe even face the Lich King himself one day, unfortunately it is unlikely to be with dMr.
I wish all officers, class leaders and ordinary members of dMr every success in whatever they strive for - both within and outside the World of Warcraft. Above all, I hope that you all have fun doing it.
I hope to see you around Aszune.
Robert, the sorry-ass noob
aka: Treekin, Katee and Fixxit (and others)