Beth'tilac - Defeated 05/07/11

Started by TeaLeaf, May 20, 2011, 02:08:36 PM

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hubbah

As long as you have a slower and a ranged on the small adds ( hunter / mage / rogue with slowing poison / DK ) it should not be a problem getting the small ones down.
Just be sure you always slow them to give your self some more time and other people dont have to switch to help out.

Our biggest + is ofcourse TL multi dotting all other mobs so that they go down. Dont you have a moonkin in your group that could do the same?

Anyway.. it should not matter if you have 1 /2 /3 melee in as long as you have slows on small adds and have your best melee on top to get the boss down to +/- 80%

Whitey

Quote from: hubbah;329099Anyway.. it should not matter if you have 1 /2 /3 melee in as long as you have slows on small adds and have your best melee on top to get the boss down to +/- 80%

We had Lego doing the slows, that part was fine.  We didn't have enough dps on the drones and spinners were still up long after they should have been down.

Slush

Quote from: Whitey;329096The main difference was the amount of dps going out 100k v's the 73k we had on Monday night.

Well, 73k is not getting this boss down. DPS will increase the more you get used to the fight, though.
According to the best try (Try4) on monday, you did 79k in total dps. This is where you reached 5:17 minutes.

You should work from that point. Not from what dps RGT has available, and how they do it.

First off, lets look at that very good try you had:

Tanks:
Treach was on Beth (up) and when he jumped down, where he did damage to drone. Had loads of self-heals. Sounds good.
Sharpfang was on Drones (down) trying to run away from Spiderlings. Sounds good.

Healers:
Dreaman was on Treach (up) and probably did Manatotem when he jumped down for the first time. If he did he should have had 3 throughout the fight. 78% of Dreamans heals went to Drea,Treach,Päls. This sounds good.
Whitey was on Sharpfang, he did good. Whiteys healing was ok. But; he doesnt have the healing experience. So the total output was somewhat low.
Moonslash was on group downstairs, but also watched Sharpfang.

Healers downstairs was probably having some manaissues when things got hot in the start of p2.

DPS:
Herm was on spinners and drones. Pretty straightforward. Low dps for her though, only 10.5k. Did she run in AoE spec?
Lego was on Spiderlings... What happened when spiderlings dead here? Isnt there any Drones up? Or are there consistant waver of Spiderlings, because you are the only one on it? Btw; Amazing AoE dps.
Päls was on Beth upstairs, and drone when jumped down. And should also innervate downstairs healer, but should also do more DPS when getting used to this properly.
Sith had multiple tasks here, he was on Spiderlings when they were up -> Then drones. But, when p2 started.. he started dpsing Beth. In this transition phase, all that matters is killing the spinners/drones/spiderlings. Gonna be good.
Vlad was stunning. Look at this chart, it shows how he was switching back and forth between spinners and drones without having downtime on his dps.

You did great.
Follow that track and you will kill this boss very soon. Its just a matter of tweaking out more dps, more hps and staying alive.
One thing I have to say though; Shamans are amazing group/aoe healers and should stay down in this fight.

Mana conservation and survivability; This things should be dealt with on TS. Call when placing a totem or when doin a hymn. Call when innervating, make good use of your CDs. Dont look at your own mana bar, look at others mana bars. I recomend you to look through the logs for this try. The recipe is there.

Whitey

I agree slush, ideally I would have been up and we did try that for the first couple of tries but it's my offspec on an alt and couldn't keep the tank up.  The healing only became an issue when we had too many spinners up with the drone(s) and then we had the AOE damnage from Beth when the top tank/healer/dps came down.  So gettting the spinners and drones down quicker (why I mention the dps) would make this an easy kill.

Slush

Yeh, did some edits to my last post... The conclusion is; Keep doing it like this, but push harder on the dps buttons and its a kill.

Edit again; You dont have to push the dps-buttons harder if you push them more often.