GP30/M203

[Armitage]

I don't think I suggested banning it and great if someone is dug in on the back of a jeep 50m away, cool. that what it's for!

Originally posted by Cadaver+Nov 14 2005, 11:41 AM-->

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Ah, the never-ending pursuit for realism in an arcade-style shooter. If only EA/DICE had modeled the 14m arming distance that the grenade launcher has in real life, then these annoying short-range "reaction" kills would not be a problem...

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Now that sounds like a good idea.

Originally posted by Ranger@Nov 14 2005, 09:59 AM


Yes, I do use the M203/GP30 as a 'reaction' weapon - but mainly because THERE ARE SO MANY VEHICLES AROUND. I do not like turning a corner to come face to face with a Hummer or Vodnik with a guy on the MG.

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Is not really the case on small map infantry games. an example, karkand-MEC only get one jeep.

Originally posted by Ranger@Nov 14 2005, 01:15 PM
No problem guys - I shall change over to a different class.

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I don't think it would be right to ban it and people should play any class they want. It's the blasted from 3ft by that bloody gren launcher I have a problem with..

[Armitage]

One other thing about last nights games, There were 2 dMw guys camping a UCB last night in jeeps on Sharqi Peninsula.

tut tut, naughty boys :lightbulb:

[Ranger]

Originally posted by Armitage@Nov 14 2005, 04:50 PM
Is not really the case on small map infantry games. an example, karkand-MEC only get one jeep.

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On small maps - especially at Karkand - a jeep is a jeep (or Vodnik in last night case), especially when it's driven onto the flag area like the Market Square...

The MG then has a supurb range of fire down the main routes to this flag and can lay down this fire right onto where the US team spawn on two flags - The Hotel & the Market Square...

This caught me out more than once last night (spawn/die).

The M16/M203 is the ideal weapon to deal with soft targets like jeeps - however many there are.

There was a jeep there - so the M203 was used. Unless you are saying that we now can't use the M203 against vehicles?



It's not a case of whether or not you are asking for it to be banned - if my fellow gamers aren't happy with a mode of play I use, I am simply happy to change it so we all are happy...(I'll use Assault on other servers instead).

- Because I simply cannot guarentee if I happen to have the M203 in my hands and I turn a corner and have you three feet away from me facing me I won't use the M203. I will. So I'd rather not use it at all and everyone is happy.

If it WERE a case of handing out arbitrary bannings, I wouldn't be taking the time to write these responces on the dMw forum - I'd be playing on the Tactical Gamer server instead. Simple as that. But as we're not - so I'm not

[Armitage]

Originally posted by Ranger@Nov 14 2005, 05:06 PM
On small maps - especially at Karkand - a jeep is a jeep (or Vodnik in last night case), especially when it's driven onto the flag area like the Market Square...

The MG then has a supurb range of fire down the main routes to this flag and can lay down this fire right onto where the US team spawn on two flags - The Hotel & the Market Square...

This caught me out more than once last night (spawn/die).

The M16/M203 is the ideal weapon to deal with soft targets like jeeps - however many there are.

There was a jeep there - so the M203 was used. Unless you are saying that we now can't use the M203 against vehicles?



It's not a case of whether or not you are asking for it to be banned - if my fellow gamers aren't happy with a mode of play I use, I am simply happy to change it so we all are happy...(I'll use Assault on other servers instead).

- Because I simply cannot guarentee if I happen to have the M203 in my hands and I turn a corner and have you three feet away from me facing me I won't use the M203. I will. So I'd rather not use it at all and everyone is happy.

If it WERE a case of handing out arbitrary bannings, I wouldn't be taking the time to write these responces on the dMw forum - I'd be playing on the Tactical Gamer server instead. Simple as that. But as we're not - so I'm not

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Am i reading this wrong. you seem to be getting over upset :unsure:

[Ranger]

Originally posted by Armitage@Nov 14 2005, 04:50 PM
It is only a game and I really enjoy playing it. so what would spoil it for me would be to see a high percentage of players using gren launchers for close quarters at anyone time.

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I hardly think this is an issue - but also - at the same time - agree with you.

In my case I chose my weapon to fit in a niche that I saw in the squads I play with ~ for example, last night, I believe I was the only assault guy on my squad (I may be wrong).

The M16/M203 fitted right in to make a good balance with the other weapons being used - snipers, AT, medic and SpecOps.

Were there 6 guys running round with M203s I might see your argument. But I think you endow my impact on the game as a whole with more importance than it actual had - especially since my side lost more games than it won last night.

However, as i say - I actually sympathize with your position, and I don't want to see any sort of imballace either that might stop anyone playing against me.

So I will be trying out another class this week. It's really no skin off my nose and I would rather see you enjoy yourself mate as I enjoy playing along with you.

[Ranger]

Originally posted by Armitage@Nov 14 2005, 05:19 PM
Am i reading this wrong. you seem to be getting over upset :unsure:

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No mate -

Typical of my race, the moment you know I am getting upset is when I don't say anything.

I just like to put forward my opinions

To be honest I wouldn't have said any more on this matter than my openning responce had it not been that I had singled out personally. After that I felt I was bound to defend my corner.

No bad feelings at all mate.

[Armitage]

no bad feelings and play Assault if that's the class you want to play.

[Anonymous]

Whooohoooo we all luv each other (except Doris who smells) :winkiss:

[Blunt]

Originally posted by Benny+Nov 14 2005, 01:36 PM-->

QUOTE(Benny @ Nov 14 2005, 01:36 PM)

make like an invincible area medics all around mutually masturbating each other back to life...

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[Doorman]

Originally posted by BlueBall@Nov 14 2005, 06:43 PM
Whooohoooo we all luv each other (except Doris who smells) :winkiss:

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WE? Oh and there's nothing wrong with Doris's smell. Lavender suits him.

[Dewey]

Originally posted by A Twig@Nov 14 2005, 02:58 PM
Being serious we didn't ban doris from using anything other than a knife in CS because he was good at shooting guns, or Sadako from being the leader because he was good at coming up with devious squad strategies, so why should we stop Ranger playing a class he's clearly put time and effort at getting good at?

I think it's all getting a little excessive. The game is actually really balanced IMO, it does take skill to use any of the classes truly effectively, and any imbalances are normally a result of one player who has played more at a certain role than another.

Jets, artillery, helicopters, tanks, grenade launchers, bring it all on...

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 :withstupid: sensibly spoken from that man

[Dewey]

Originally posted by outofsync@Nov 14 2005, 05:23 PM
I think that was liberal use of the crouch button whilst using the fixed MPG at the MEC primary spawn point, when the map restarted I played as sniper and found a good OP and racked up 7 kills as I recall not much jumping up and down to be done as I was'nt spotted in that round.

Good games last night kark always seems to rock.

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No mate, you where jumping during a fire fight, top of our hotel base, I could tell you were not crouching by the way you where jumping up and down and firing at us.   :narnar:

[Penfold]

I get pissed off when Ranger kills me with his grenade launcher  :ranting:

I get pissed off when Armitage kills me from his helicopter  :ranting:

I get pissed off when Oldie runs me over in his jeep and I'm on his team  :ranting:

I get pissed off how Doris kills me every time in CS  :ranting:

I get pissed off how most people kill me every time in CS  :ranting:

I get pissed off when I get a hoarde of Paladins tromping through my town when I've just castled in AoK  :ranting:




PEN

[DuVeL]

Now go to the pub and get pissed there. :lmfao:

[delanvital]

I think I have done my fair share of nade kills. Amongst those has been close combat kills. I hate when it end like that and I don't kill ppl up close with the nade deliberately. I often select the M203/GP30, as Ranger said, because vehicles, or groups of people, are all over the place. As some of you know, I love taking out jeeps and buggies using the M203/GP30. Three kills in one shot if ya lucky

However, some days ago Cadaver complained about it at the end of a game (I take it he means the up n close kills) and I promised to do better and IMHO I have improved. In the excellent 16p game on Gulf of Oman some time ago I don't think I did that at all. I used the M203, so did we all with all the jeeps in use, but got most of my kills using the M16A2 on single shot.

So in the future, if I end up smacking a grenade in your face at close range it is not deliberate.

On a note: I have found some good roofspots close to alleys, especially in Karkand, and I enjoy taking out ppl with nades, as they pass through the alleys. I am sometimes two stories up or more. Is that considered close combat?