C4 Jeeps

Toxteth · December 20, 2005, 11:11:04 PM

Can you please clarify the rules on C4 jeeps for me?

I got warned tonight after several successful bomb runs even though i parked up next to the tank and ran before i blew it and so i didn't die. :blink:

GG all who played.

Tox

Doorman · December 20, 2005, 11:27:22 PM

What's a C4 jeep? Do you load it up with C4 and park it somewhere with the keys in? Turn ignition and 'BOOOOOM!' Sounds good to me. :devil:

OldBloke · December 21, 2005, 01:28:22 AM

QuoteOriginally posted by Toxteth@Dec 20 2005, 11:11 PM
Can you please clarify the rules on C4 jeeps for me?

I got warned tonight after several successful bomb runs even though i parked up next to the tank and ran before i blew it and so i didn't die. :blink:

GG all who played.
Tox
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Hi Tox,

What's frowned upon is driving at your target with a vehicle loaded with C4 with the intention of leaping out at the last minute and detonating. More often than not this tends to be a suicidal tactic which is why it's not allowed on our servers (you died twice trying this last night hence the warning).

What is allowed is 'road-side bombs' and booby-trapped vehicles.

Hope that clears it up.

OB

Carr0t · December 21, 2005, 01:42:42 AM

QuoteOriginally posted by Doorman@Dec 20 2005, 11:27 PM
What's a C4 jeep? Do you load it up with C4 and park it somewhere with the keys in? Turn ignition and 'BOOOOOM!' Sounds good to me. :devil:
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I believe it's *normally* when people cover a jeep in C4 and then make suicide bomb runs at opposing armour. Bailing out and/or detonating at the last second to take out the armour.

True suicide runs are something that I think should result in a kick or ban. Driving up to the side of the vehicle, jumping out, and detonating, is *less* bad. But I still don't like it. I would have no problem with driving up to armour, throwing C4 on to the armour, and then running away and detonating, but having it on your jeep beforehand feels like a cheap trick that i'd rather not see used, even if it's not a true 'suicide run' cos you don't kill yourself.

suicidal_monkey · December 21, 2005, 10:01:28 AM

just to add that you don't need to detonate or jump out to take out tanks with loaded jeeps. Drive straight into them, the resulting explosion takes out most things nearby.

ahem, what *not* to do

CoolHand · December 21, 2005, 11:39:46 AM

QuoteOriginally posted by suicidal_monkey@Dec 21 2005, 12:01 PM
just to add that you don't need to detonate or jump out to take out tanks with loaded jeeps. Drive straight into them, the resulting explosion takes out most things nearby.

ahem, what *not* to do
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Ahem....

I am beginning to think that this is a bit too complicated... I have a couple of times rammed tankks or APCs with an APC. If I see that the armour is getting low, and that stepping outside of the APC would be true suicide, I have sometimes opted for ramming the other vehicle before it manages to blow me up.

Now, is this something that should result in a ban? If so, I'll never do it again. I swear.

:whistle:

suicidal_monkey · December 21, 2005, 01:03:01 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by CoolHand@Dec 21 2005, 11:39 AM
I am beginning to think that this is a bit too complicated... I have a couple of times rammed tankks or APCs with an APC.

ramming per se is fine (imho - I do it too - managed to shove someone over a cliff before too :devil: ) but ramming a tank with a jeep when the jeep is loaded with C4 results in the tank blowing up (along with everything else nearby) This is largely due to the C4 being detonated by the accident.

CoolHand · December 21, 2005, 01:36:29 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by suicidal_monkey@Dec 21 2005, 03:03 PM
ramming per se is fine (imho - I do it too - managed to shove someone over a cliff before too :devil: ) but ramming a tank with a jeep when the jeep is loaded with C4 results in the tank blowing up (along with everything else nearby) This is largely due to the C4 being detonated by the accident.
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Ah.

Point taken.

I never used C4 anyway.

Ranger · December 21, 2005, 01:37:26 PM

I find the issue of 'suicide' bombers in the game very interesting.

I often suicide bomb (Special Ops) - entirely because:

a) I get caught putting my C4 on so make the concious decision that if I am going to die I am taking YOU with me!

B) (More often) I don't get sufficiently clear before detonating my C4 (or get hit by flying debris).

Strangely no-one (as far as I know) has complained about me doing this (a) - and I think it is because they appreciate the risk I take trying to run up to a tank/APC in the open AND that many times I get caught and shot!

....In otherwords, there is a fair chance that my victim can do something about me...

The vehicle bomb however does not seem to give the victim a good chance to react and counter it.

It may be a fine line, but is sufficient to make the victim feel he wasn't given a FAIR chance to defend himself...

I think all of you have seen me running towards you at one time or another (and many of you have shot me doing it! LOL) - but there can be no comparison to the speed I run and the speed of a jeep coming toward you!

At least when I run toward you you can out run me by backing off speedily - there is no such chance when a speeding buggie or jeep comes toward you!

Please tell me if you think my 'suicide' bombing DOES niggle you - I'd find it interesting (just bear in mind that I NEVER scuicide bomb DELIBERATELY - it's just something that happens if I get caught).

Interesting note (and apologies for the stereotyping, no offence is meant) - but I feel perfectly happy suicide bombing when I play MEC or Chinese, as I think this 'realistic' and would actually happen. I feel less happy doing this when playing USMC. Funny eh?

big-paddy · December 21, 2005, 02:30:32 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by Ranger@Dec 21 2005, 01:37 PM

Interesting note (and apologies for the stereotyping, no offence is meant) - but I feel perfectly happy suicide bombing when I play MEC or Chinese, as I think this 'realistic' and would actually happen. I feel less happy doing this when playing USMC. Funny eh?
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Nope. Thats just another wierd Ranger thing. Who is keeping the wierd Ranger list - is that in the private Charlie forum.

Toxteth · December 21, 2005, 02:40:52 PM

Ah ok, that's fair enough. Also i didn't realise that driving into enemy armour with C4 on blew you up which is why it seemed like suicide last night.

While we're on the point of clarifying things, i've been moaned about a few times for "bunny hopping" when i've been shot at from a distance or by enemy armour and so have jumped ONCE whilst on the run. Is this allowed or aren't you allowed to jump at all? (probably been brought up in a different post i've just missed it)

Thinking about it if someone shot at me in RL i doubt very much that id run and jump to try to escape...

Tox

DuVeL · December 21, 2005, 04:38:13 PM

That's something I use on publicservers but then more like boobytrap the driversseat, then see people enter it and KABOOM. Allways a big laugh for me because with one C4 you can take out the driver atleast.

Ranger · December 21, 2005, 05:27:32 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by DuVeL@Dec 21 2005, 04:38 PM
That's something I use on publicservers but then more like boobytrap the driversseat, then see people enter it and KABOOM. Allways a big laugh for me because with one C4 you can take out the driver atleast.
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Actually, this brings up a point...

Vehicle rape.

As a Spec Ops I can justifiably enter the UCB and blow up material...

Aren't vehicles in the UCB 'material'?

OR - is because people think it's 'low' to C4 a vehicle and wait for someone to get in before blowing it up...

I remember someone REALLY losing thier temper with me (not on the dMw server, btw) when I entered the UCB, C4'ed a F15, waited for the guy to take off, then - 'KABOOM!'.

So is it just sneaky and really low to boobie-trap someone's vehicle - OR is it 'cheating'?

And if it's 'cheating' - why is it ok to sneakily run up behind someone's vehicle and C4 it any other time?

Regards,

Confused, Scarborough

Ranger · December 21, 2005, 05:28:54 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by big-paddy@Dec 21 2005, 02:30 PM
Nope. Thats just another wierd Ranger thing. Who is keeping the wierd Ranger list - is that in the private Charlie forum.
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I'm NOT weird...

Just misunderstood!

R.

CoolHand · December 21, 2005, 06:07:27 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by Ranger@Dec 21 2005, 07:27 PM
Actually, this brings up a point...

Vehicle rape.

As a Spec Ops I can justifiably enter the UCB and blow up material...

Aren't vehicles in the UCB 'material'?

OR - is because people think it's 'low' to C4 a vehicle and wait for someone to get in before blowing it up...

I remember someone REALLY losing thier temper with me (not on the dMw server, btw) when I entered the UCB, C4'ed a F15, waited for the guy to take off, then - 'KABOOM!'.

So is it just sneaky and really low to boobie-trap someone's vehicle - OR is it 'cheating'?

And if it's 'cheating' - why is it ok to sneakily run up behind someone's vehicle and C4 it any other time?

Regards,

Confused, Scarborough
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Setting booby-traps is allowed, right? Not?