EMAIL Hosts

Penfold · February 20, 2006, 11:46:23 AM

Can anyone recommend a good email hosting company for me please?

I currently use UK2. net and sometimes they just seem to take forever to transfer mail.

I need a good, reliable service which will transfer messages quickly.

Many thanks
PEN

GhostMjr · February 20, 2006, 04:14:51 PM

May have got the wrong end of the stick but do mean something like gmail? If so, i can invite you as i have 100 invites left

TeaLeaf · February 20, 2006, 04:39:54 PM

//www.domaincity.co.uk for your domains.
//www.zoneedit.com for your email forwarding.

It's what handles the dMw email addies, DNS for these forums, my work email and domains etc.

TL.

Rabbi Bob · February 20, 2006, 05:30:34 PM

I do the same thing TL does (though I use a domain company out of Canada) and it works well for my domains and the last business I worked at.

Penfold · February 20, 2006, 07:26:41 PM

That's perfect for my forwarding issues and will solve my current probs - thanks

However I also need to get a good email host that I can forward my domain emails onto. Something like Google but preferably one which is top notch speed-wise....
I don't mind paying for aa top rate service.

Any thoughts?

Thanks

PEN

Anonymous · February 20, 2006, 07:31:07 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by ThePENDRAGON@Feb 20 2006, 07:26 PM
That's perfect for my forwarding issues and will solve my current probs - thanks

However I also need to get a good email host that I can forward my domain emails onto. Something like Google but preferably one which is top notch speed-wise....
I don't mind paying for aa top rate service.

Any thoughts?

Thanks

PEN
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Why don't you run your own mail server and be done with it. I've set up my MX records so that email is delivered to my mail server first and if they cant connect to it they dump it in Blueyonders mail server.

I'm with UK2.net and I've never had a problem with them.

Penfold · February 20, 2006, 07:47:28 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by TeaLeaf@Feb 20 2006, 04:39 PM
//www.domaincity.co.uk for your domains.
//www.zoneedit.com for your email forwarding.

It's what handles the dMw email addies, DNS for these forums, my work email and domains etc.

TL.
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I'm signing up with them and it's asking me if I was referrred from a current customer and if so, what's their account number and ID.

Do you get a kick-back from it? IF so pm me your details and I'll add them.

PEN

Penfold · February 20, 2006, 07:52:15 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall@Feb 20 2006, 07:31 PM
Why don't you run your own mail server and be done with it. I've set up my MX records so that email is delivered to my mail server first and if they cant connect to it they dump it in Blueyonders mail server.

I'm with UK2.net and I've never had a problem with them.
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I'm not sure what setting up my own mail server means?

I have a domain at UK2.net and use an email address from that domain which uses email forwarding to go to an email address at uk2.net.

If there's a quicker and better way to organise it then please let me know!!!!!

My problem with the email at UK2.net is that it's quite often down and sometines (like last week) took 6 days to deliver my emails.

I'd willingly do anything to improve this...

My problem is that I'm self-employed and just don't have the technical backup so I normally just bodge stuff to get it to work (such as email forwarding). If there's a better way please tell me.

Thanks

PEN

Anonymous · February 20, 2006, 08:47:47 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by ThePENDRAGON@Feb 20 2006, 07:52 PM
I'm not sure what setting up my own mail server means?

I have a domainat UK2.net and use an email address from that domain which uses email forwarding to go to an email address at uk2.net.

If there's a quicker and better way to organise it then please let me know!!!!!

My problem with the email at UK2.net is that it's quite often down and sometines (like last week) took 6 days to deliver my emails.

I'd willingly do anything to improve this...

My problem is that I'm self-employed and just don't have the technical backup so I normally just bodge stuff to get it to work (such as email forwarding). If there's a better way please tell me.

Thanks

PEN
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I run Ability Mail server. it cost me $75 (not Â£) for a mail server that handles up to 25 users and 5 domains (far more than I need). I know there are free mail servers out there but Ability is just so easy to use. It gives me pop3, smtp, webmail (authenticated/encrypted by certificate) and loads of stuff I never use (anti-spam etc) Its worth a look http://www.code-crafters.com/abilitymailserver/

Penfold · February 20, 2006, 09:19:20 PM

Sorry if I'm being overly obtuse, but does that mean that you don't need to have another email address and that emails to domains are sent directly to your PC?

IF I'm reading this right, someone sends you an email via your domain (eg. Bob@bob'sdomain.com). on that domain you set the email forwarding so that it gets sent to your own PC mail server. Then people on your network connect to your own network to retrieve the mail?

Thanks

PEN

edit: I've had a go and it makes little sense...... I can't see how you even get it to download emails or what do you point the email forwarding to so that it gets them?

thanks

Anonymous · February 21, 2006, 09:00:58 AM

QuoteOriginally posted by ThePENDRAGON@Feb 20 2006, 09:19 PM
Sorry if I'm being overly obtuse, but does that mean that you don't need to have another email address and that emails to domains are sent directly to your PC?
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Yup

QuoteIF I'm reading this right, someone sends you an email via your domain (eg. Bob@bob'sdomain.com). on that domain you set the email forwarding so that it gets sent to your own PC mail server. Then people on your network connect to your own network to retrieve the mail?
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Yup again

Quoteedit: I've had a go and it makes little sense...... I can't see how you even get it to download emails or what do you point the email forwarding to so that it gets them?
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Create a dnsalias account (free) to resolve a domain name to your modem IP (I have sutherlandweb.dnsalias.net pointing to my cable modem so if the IP changes DNS will get looked after).

I have my main domain (sutherlandweb.co.uk) looked after at UK2 but only from a DNS point of view). here are my DNS settings:

Quotesutherlandweb   IN   SOA   uk2net.com. hostmaster.sutherlandweb.co.uk.
Â IN   NS   ultra17.uk2.net.
Â IN   NS   ultra18.uk2.net.
Â IN   MX   10 suthwebsrv2.sutherlandweb.co.uk.
Â IN   MX   5 suthmailsrv.sutherlandweb.co.uk.
Â IN   MX   15 uk2mxarray3.uk2.net.
Â IN   A   83.170.69.87
$ORIGIN sutherlandweb.co.uk.
*Â IN   CNAME   sutherlandweb.dnsalias.net.
mailÂ IN   A   83.170.69.87
wwwÂ IN   CNAME   sutherlandweb.dnsalias.net.

You can see that there are 3 MX records setup and they are executed in lowesdt number first order so it tries my 2 servers first before reverting to uk2's own mail server (MX 15). When this gets used (ie the first 2 dont respond) I have email diversion setup from uk2 to send email to an account at blueyonder so if my servers fail the email get delivered somewhere else. Also note the first CNAME entry. basically all machines in the sutherlandweb.co.uk domain get pointed to sutherlandweb.dnsalias.net - this is an important step. (you override mail to remain pointed at uk2 ip for fallback reasons)

You need to open up ports 25 and 110 on your router to the machine that runs the mail server.

With ability mail you tell it what domain it is sending/receiving mail for, create user accounts in the domain and off you go. On your client machines you can point the mail accounts to the local mail server for pop3 and smtp (unless you run DNS internally then will have to enter the IP of the mail server). The mail server will now send and receive mail for you. It looks up the MX records of the domain it is trying to send to and forwards the mail to the machine specified by that hosts MX record. Anyone sending you mail will get their mail server looking up your MX record and sending direct to your mail server

Voila!

It also gives you access to webmail and you can let clients automatically create their own mail accounts if you feel brave

TeaLeaf · February 21, 2006, 09:16:56 AM

PM sent.

The things BB said are right (and more expensive), but Zoneedit does the same but more easily and more cheaply

As for UK2, how much does DNS management cost you BB? It's not free with UK2 whereas it is with most others such as Domaincity - that's why I left UK2 in the first place. Â£40 a year for something I can get for nothing elsewhere? I think not.

TL.

Anonymous · February 21, 2006, 09:19:12 AM

QuoteOriginally posted by TeaLeaf@Feb 21 2006, 09:16 AM
PM sent.

The things BB said are right (and more expensive), but Zoneedit does the same but more easily and more cheaply

As for UK2, how much does DNS management cost you BB? It's not free with UK2 whereas it is with most others such as Domaincity - that's why I left UK2 in the first place. Â£40 a year for something I can get for nothing elsewhere? I think not.

TL.
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Mmm, can't remember as I've been with em so long I just let things roll along :blush:

might have to check into zoneedit before renewal.

Anonymous · February 21, 2006, 09:26:14 AM

Just checked and its Â£1.20/month for DNS management. It works fine so I'll avoid the hassle of changing.

TeaLeaf · February 21, 2006, 10:11:17 AM

Aye, so for someone setting it up from scratch it's easier and cheaper to go elsewhere imo. UK2 seemed to want to charge me for *everything* :lol:

TL.